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| 176619 | 2003-09-21 10:00:00 | Fazackerly Thomas, it's matter of extremes, and a far from perfect human race. Extreme capitalism and free for all will lead to anarchy where those who value individualism may have to hire mercenaries to protect their wealth. Extreme socialism with dictatorship thrown in will lead to the Russian oppressive experiment with millions slaughtered by little father Stalin and his henchmen. (Though it did last for a fairly long time). Im not against a benevolent form of capitalism, but I much prefer mutual support in society, honesty in business etc. Witness all the SAR volunteers and non-SAR people that turned out in the Wairarapa to search. On the other hand I wouldnt mind being paid US$140 million pa to be chairman of the NY Stock Exchange :) |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 176620 | 2003-09-21 10:24:00 | > On the other hand I wouldnt mind being paid US$140 > million pa to be chairman of the NY Stock Exchange > :) While Alan Greenspan is "only" paid US$166,700 ?:| Mike. |
Mike (15) | ||
| 176621 | 2003-09-21 19:34:00 | > > On the other hand I wouldnt mind being paid US$140 > > million pa to be chairman of the NY Stock Exchange > > :) > > While Alan Greenspan is "only" paid US$166,700 ?:| > > Mike. Thats less thab the head of the Elim Church |
Holy Cow (4475) | ||
| 176622 | 2003-09-21 19:51:00 | You are mixing human nature with economics I think Te. What kind of society isn't structured on greed? The problem of social organization is how to set up an arrangement under which greed will do the least harm; capitalism is that kind of system. |
Thomas (1820) | ||
| 176623 | 2003-09-21 20:46:00 | It just isnt possible to departmentalise or separate human behaviour, thinking, and nature from social systems or disciplines like economics as though they existed in isolation from one another, though it is a human trait to try to do so in order to simplify thought processes, otherwise it is all too complex. A crude analogy would be in electrical theory where we try to simplify things by thinking of lumped parameters like 'a capacitance', 'a resistance', 'an inductance', whereas we all know that such things dont exist in practice as pure entities, and as the frequency rises they become more and more blurry. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 176624 | 2003-09-21 21:55:00 | Just someone's opinion. They might have chosen Wine instead (except its too unstable) :( At the end of the day, Bill lost some revenue (which is insignificant in the great scheme of things). It probably would have been easier for Munich to go with XP but they chose not to (Suse is a Germany company too!). |
Dolby Digital (160) | ||
| 176625 | 2003-09-21 23:52:00 | > [i]Linux desktops in Munich wil run Windows in > VMWARE... > Remember that story about the city of Munich choosing > Linux to power 14,000 desktop computers? <snip > I would suggest that VMware is being used as a stepping stone while Munich coverts fully to Linux. I personally view the cost of VMware licenses as a one off cost in doing this. This may have a short term cost, but I think it will have good long term benefits. |
segfault (655) | ||
| 176626 | 2003-09-22 01:21:00 | Those who say we are fundamentally greedy creatures contradict themselves all the time. Those who amass great wealth are constantly ( and conspicuously) seen giving dosh away to bring themselves back into the fold, knowing we are sociable and interactive creatures. We need each other more than a heap of 'things', and it is our relations with other people which ultimately determines our happiness or not. Remember the story of King Midas, and Dunkirk and Featherston. We are in a kind of 'push-pull' situation, where, yes. we do have to make efforts to provide for ourselves, (Capitalism some would say, but no contradiction with socialism there) but also we want to help our families, friends, and communities. The idea of 'giving something back' is well entrenched in our culture, those who don't get isoltaed and considered as selfish at best and anal retentive at worst and no-one likes being called that. So M. Thatcher's dictum that 'there is no such thing as community , just aggregtions of self-interested individuls' is nonsense, and those who adhere to it, unless they really are an isolated king midas type, are self-contradictory. My 5c's worth (Wouldn't want to get caught in a currency dispute. :D |
mark c (247) | ||
| 176627 | 2003-09-22 02:44:00 | >It just isnt possible to departmentalise or separate human behaviour, >thinking, and nature from social systems or disciplines like economics as >though they existed in isolation from one another. Indeed it is not,the question is which system gives us liberty and there can be no doubt about that. |
Thomas (1820) | ||
| 176628 | 2003-09-22 22:34:00 | Saw a wonderful quote a few weeks back that may put a new perspective on this: " Ahh, if Bill Gates had a dollar for every time that 'Windows' has crashed... oh that's right...he does." |
oggy (1250) | ||
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