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Thread ID: 128854	2013-01-19 21:28:00	Gay marriage leads to crime	plod (107)	PC World Chat

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1323678	2013-01-21 01:07:00	Besides, nobody becomes gay, they are either born gay or not. I don't believe that. I think it would be only a relatively small percentage that are born gay and the rest are just affected by their upbringing.	mikebartnz (21)
1323679	2013-01-21 01:12:00	I don't believe that. I think it would be only a relatively small percentage that are born gay and the rest are just affected by their upbringing. Personally I think that some people are born gay, others become gay, and both are equally likely.	pcuser42 (130)
1323680	2013-01-21 01:19:00	Personally I think that some people are born gay, others become gay, and both are equally likely. I don't really know anyone gay but I don't think I've ever heard anyone who is gay say they chose to and became gay. If they say they are born that way, well they are gay, and they should know. I'm not going to argue with that.	Agent_24 (57)
1323681	2013-01-21 01:19:00	Personally I think that some people are born gay, others become gay, and both are equally likely . +1 . I asked my Site Trainer at work when he 'decided' he was gay and he simply replied "I never decided . I just am . " Then there are some who lie to themselves and everyone around them about their sexuality - heck even *marry* and have *children* before 'coming out' . Except the English language evolves constantly . . . +1 again . . . Small minds would not understand this .	lordnoddy (3645)
1323682	2013-01-21 01:22:00	I don't believe that. I think it would be only a relatively small percentage that are born gay and the rest are just affected by their upbringing.hmmm, not sure if people are born gay either, but I have doubts it's got much to do with up bringing. My cousin had a very similar up bringing to me, so did his sister. And the countless other cousins I have. Yet only one gay cousin. A interesting thought would be identical twins, one gay one not. How would that work.	plod (107)
1323683	2013-01-21 01:24:00	An interesting thought would be identical twins, one gay one not. How would that work. Better still conjoined (or what ever it is) twins... one's gay the other isn't... only one @$$... =\	lordnoddy (3645)
1323684	2013-01-21 01:43:00	Except the English language evolves constantly... It's certainly not evolving, but going backwards. How do you explain all this "Bro" language and all this text talk?	goodiesguy (15316)
1323685	2013-01-21 02:00:00	It's certainly not evolving, but going backwards. How do you explain all this "Bro" language and all this text talk? That's not English. ;)	pcuser42 (130)
1323686	2013-01-21 02:16:00	A few things (Without reading every single post in this thread yet, that's a job for later tonight): 1) Divorce rates in heterosexual marriages are roughly 50% at the moment. That's marginally higher in the church (I think around 55% of marriages end in divorce) whereas gay male divorce rates are even higher still (I think it was around 75%?). Female homosexual marriages however are somewhere around 30%. 2) Child abuse / family violence is highest in male same sex marriages, higher than heterosexual marriages. Again female + female relationships have the lowest known abuse / violence rates (This is relatively consistent regardless of ethnicity too). It seems the common denominator is males that cause all the issues, regardless of if they're gay or straight. 3) The "Bro" is cultural, specifically a lot of maori / pacific islander cultures have very large extended families, usually living together. It was natural to call most males "bro" as they were your brother, and where they weren't it was a sign you viewed them as a close friends. Something you'd understand if your head wasn't so far up your ass goodiesguy. Note: I don't have references for those statistics, but can find them later. Those child abuse / violence stats were for NZ as well as abroad, they were pretty consistent. The divorce stats NZ is a bit higher than the average for most countries I believe.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1323687	2013-01-21 02:20:00	A few things (Without reading every single post in this thread yet, that's a job for later tonight): 1) Divorce rates in heterosexual marriages are roughly 50% at the moment. That's marginally higher in the church (I think around 55% of marriages end in divorce) whereas gay male divorce rates are even higher still (I think it was around 75%?). Female homosexual marriages however are somewhere around 30%. 2) Child abuse / family violence is highest in male same sex marriages, higher than heterosexual marriages. Again female + female relationships have the lowest known abuse / violence rates (This is relatively consistent regardless of ethnicity too). It seems the common denominator is males that cause all the issues, regardless of if they're gay or straight. 3) The "Bro" is cultural, specifically a lot of maori / pacific islander cultures have very large extended families, usually living together. It was natural to call most males "bro" as they were your brother, and where they weren't it was a sign you viewed them as a close friends. Something you'd understand if your head wasn't so far up your ass goodiesguy. Note: I don't have references for those statistics, but can find them later. Those child abuse / violence stats were for NZ as well as abroad, they were pretty consistent. The divorce stats NZ is a bit higher than the average for most countries I believe.would be nice to see the references, because as far as I know, there is zero child abuse/domestic violence in same sex marriages in NZ. Unless you can prove otherwise	plod (107)
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