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Thread ID: 128879 2013-01-21 19:48:00 Gareth Morgan wants to get rid of all cats. Trev (427) PC World Chat
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1324008 2013-01-21 21:12:00 Why because he is a White male?

:illogical

No, the facial hair looks creepy.
pcuser42 (130)
1324009 2013-01-21 21:28:00 Who is crazier ?

Gareth Morgan or
Don Brash (let in illegal immigrants)

But yes cats just need to kill rats and mice - not kiwis or pukeko's
Digby (677)
1324010 2013-01-21 21:32:00 Another idiot telling us what to do. Next thing we know is they will be getting rid of dogs. QW. (15883)
1324011 2013-01-21 22:01:00 Yes dogs kill birds especially the ground breeding birds and there young. Have seen a foxy kill a young dotterel.
:(
Trev (427)
1324012 2013-01-21 22:40:00 Sigh. Gareth Morgan has never had cats.
I have had many.
Some hunt, some don't.
I had one cat who wouldn't eat anything raw, whether it was wild or not. She tried a bird once, (caught by the other cat) ate a bit and left in disgust, never bothered ever again. She would come down to the fishpond with us and eat the fish food, with fish swimming around her face trying to get their share. Birds would land next to her and she didn't care.

On the other hand, I have a cat now who hunts all the time.

80% of her catch is waxeyes.

before you get all excited about that, I have no sympathy for the Australian imports that trash the orchards and grapevines.
She loves them. Second choice is sparrows. She spends most of her time stalking the rats next door which she won't eat.
She does not bother to hunt Blackbirds, Mynahs or anything bigger. They must taste yuk I think.

We had fantails down South, and they were quite suicidal, flying in low over her and us. She never bothered with one of them either.....

Cats do not, as he said, be eating catfood and if a small animal appeared next to it, kill it then resume eating.
Snufs might, depending what kind of animal it was, but then she wouldn't be eating catfood in the first place, she won't eat the stuff. I feed her Jimbos for that reason.

The biggest threat to NZ birdlife isn't cats, dogs, stoats, possums, whatever - it's people.
We cut down the bush, we concrete it over, we build houses and carparks where it was. We tromp around the bush, import and spread weeds, we damage the environment more.

What happened to the moa? Wasn't cats. Or any other animal.

Even the bird groups, they persist in releasing raised birds back onto the mainland, it never works and it never will now. It's too late.
And he's worried about birds anyway? Most of the animal species on the planet is endangered or threatened.
Watch - this is the 6th extinction....there will be loads of birds, animals, fish, whatever, extinct in no time. Mostly due to people, not other animals.
Shall we all leave NZ, remove all the changes we made, remove all the imported animals and plants? It will never happen. Eliminate cats and it still doesn't fix the problem now.

As for bells, friend of mine has a cat that he belled. She learnt to stalk very subtle and not ring the bell. Could have been a problem but she is one of the cats that can't be bothered with catching things much. I've watched her totally ignore flocks of pesky pigeons all around her. But she sure could keep that bell quiet when she wanted.
pctek (84)
1324013 2013-01-21 22:55:00 Mynahs are the devil. the worst sounding bird ever. Gobe1 (6290)
1324014 2013-01-21 23:04:00 So many cats. so few recipies tut (12033)
1324015 2013-01-21 23:13:00 I understand why people love cats but thinking your cute little house pet does no damage to the wildlife is kidding yourself. The only cats that are no threat to the native wildlife are those that live in cities etc where there's nothing around to catch, or those that are too old or feeble to catch anything. House cats are just as capable for their size as any of their wild relatives and the hunting instinct is strong, they will kill things whether they are hungry or not and when well fed they just leave the bodies laying around.

That said I think it's unrealistic and foolish to try and get rid of them altogether, never going to happen. Instead I think they need to tighten up the rules, both to protect our wildlife from the cats and to protect crazy cat people from themselves. No household should have more than 2 cats (they are solitary animals in the wild anyway), all pet cats should be desexed, and only licenced and strictly controlled breeders should be allowed an exception to these rules. All feral cats captured should be put down immediately.

It might sound harsh and as if I don't like cats, but I do. they just don't belong in this eco-system and their damage needs to be minimised. Dog's are also a problem but unlike cats they can (and should) be easily fenced in and contained, and kept on a leash when out exercising.

The truth is our European forefathers liked to bring plants and animals from home with them and the impact on the eco-system was never a consideration. No animals should have been introduced here and released into the wild and even plants should have been very carefully considered. It's too late to fix that now though, we just have to do our best in the aftermath of their short sightedness.
dugimodo (138)
1324016 2013-01-21 23:18:00 We don't own a cat on our 15ha, but see up to 6 or 8 on a walk around our property. We were monitoring a Fantails nest outside our en-suite a month ago, heard 2 cats scraping in the early hours of the morning chased them off. Looked at a wrecked nest on the ground the next morning a few feathers and 3 less Fantails. Time to put cats on a curfew and delete the rest, before I do. So sad. Saw a cat the other day with a Quail in its mouth as well.:angry:angry

You must be rural surely !. native birds are more important than dead cats surely, 15ha would almost make them feral on that much land.

Lurking.
Lurking (218)
1324017 2013-01-21 23:50:00 Another idiot telling us what to do. Next thing we know is they will be getting rid of dogs.

Maybe we should register cats like dogs. I get really sick of the cat **** in our gardens all the time and the stoking of the local bird population..
paulw (1826)
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