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178877 2003-09-29 06:14:00 This is an excerpt from an email I received today:

Microsoft OEM Office SBE & XP will increase significantly in price as of 1st October. This price rise stems from Microsoft - as Office 2003 is due out in roughly another month, Microsoft want the price point on 2003, SBE and XP to be the same, hence the increase.

This is regarding wholesale price, so I don't know how this will effect retail price, but it probably will.

Mike.
Mike (15)
178878 2003-09-29 08:20:00 :O I have trouble trying to afford Office and Windows for the computers in our house...
*must work harder to convert sister to the Open Source movement*

Did they justify the price increase in the email?


CyberChuck
cyberchuck (173)
178879 2003-09-29 19:57:00 Office XP will be increasing about 20 to 25% and then slowly downscaled off the retail shelves .

I'll keep ya posted about the new office2003 as I have a product knowledge launch coming up in a few days and supposedly a free copy also .
dipstick01 (445)
178880 2003-09-30 08:16:00 > I'll keep ya posted about the new office2003 as I
> have a product knowledge launch coming up in a few
> days and supposedly a free copy also.

It's not too bad - I quite like it, especially Outlook.

Mike.
Mike (15)
178881 2003-09-30 22:29:00 Will you see some sense CyberChuck?

If it's you who is paying for Office and Windows in your house, do you honestly think your sister will want to convert to free software? :p

More seriously, it's your own fault - you took it upon yourself to be the tech-junkie in your house, and got the responsibility of looking after computers (or something like that).

Secondly, I quite honestly do not think that you are part of the so-called 'Open Source movement'. Why? Because that's largely for extreme fanatics of OSS, who absolutely hate everything that isn't free, and have cemented feelings of hatred and disgust at Microsoft.
agent (30)
178882 2003-10-01 00:17:00 >>Secondly, I quite honestly do not think that you are part of the so-called 'Open Source movement'. Why? Because that's largely for extreme fanatics of OSS, who absolutely hate everything that isn't free, and have cemented feelings of hatred and disgust at Microsoft.
Life is so black and white, full of generalisations. Actually the 'Open Source movement' and the Free Software Foundation are separate entities i.e. Open Source does not necessarily mean free software. Just ask Richard Stallman.
Dolby Digital (160)
178883 2003-10-01 22:44:00 I don't get your point.

I know full well the difference between OSS and free software, and frankly, I don't care which I use, because I don't do developing.

However, I can justify using the word 'free', because there are extremists who oppose OSS being sold.
agent (30)
178884 2003-10-02 04:50:00 Well just done the Product Knowledge event on the new office and it looks quite good. A few significant changes from the previous version and depending on your needs looks worth the upgrade. I still have to install my copy and give it a good try but one of the main features seems to be Information Rights management. Being able to send information over the net to someone who then can only read it and no paste, copy or printing of the info and also with a set expiry date can be quite handy for some.
A fair bit of the focus has also been towards actual business users with a large number of new features and productivity tools implemented to make life easier for them.
Another difference people will notice is the fact that the versions of word etc will differ with features between the educational and professional versions. They are also releasing a basic version at the $300 range for users who just want word, excel and outlook.
Outlook appears to be revamped to be more user friendly and more of their applications are also starting to follow in the outlook layout.
All in all the new Office2003 shows some promise and some damn handy features but as I still have to actually use it all I have to go on so far is what we have been told.
dipstick01 (445)
178885 2003-10-02 06:25:00 "Secondly, I quite honestly do not think that you are part of the so-called 'Open Source movement'. Why? Because that's largely for extreme fanatics of OSS, who absolutely hate everything that isn't free, and have cemented feelings of hatred and disgust at Microsoft."

What a load of crap. One can use OSS(and be part of the open source movement) and use MS software (as i am doing now to post this). There is quite a bit of very good OSS out there that is "cross platform" and follows open standards it's putting some of MSs offerings to shame. Bring on the compitition is all I say. This is a good thing in the computing industry.
mark.p (383)
178886 2003-10-02 22:48:00 It sounds rather like you are assuming I have absolutely no knowledge about OSS.

I will invite you to look at a particular part of what I said:

> Because that's largely for extreme fanatics of OSS

Notice the word largely?

I didn't say it was completely for extreme OSS fanatics, however, the word "largely" might be a bit of an over-statement.

Now, yes, OSS provides incentive for closed source software to be improved, but, it also has detrimental impacts on the industry. If there were a complete and utter uptake of OSS, do you think economies would rise or fall? Honestly now, sharing of information and knowledge is all very well, but many economies would suffer badly if all software became open source, and there was no such thing as "software sales".
agent (30)
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