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178852 2003-09-29 05:51:00 Evening folks.
Trying to help a friend at distance to do some housekeeping on a newish XP Home OS. Tells me that cannot find Backup where I indicated (I have XPPRO). I seem to recall hearing that some versions of XP do not have backup facility. Can that be true? Thanks.
Scouse (83)
178853 2003-09-29 05:54:00 if I am correct I heard somwhere that xp home does not come with a inbult backup software, Im on xp pro also beama (111)
178854 2003-09-29 05:59:00 WinXP Home does have a backup facility it's just not installed by default.

Check here:- sft-cyber.com

I hope this helps. :-)
Elephant (599)
178855 2003-09-29 06:02:00 From the ElderGeek site:

Users of XP Home Edition that have tried to back up their systems may have been surprised to find that the Backup utility is not included in the default installation of Windows XP Home Edition. No Backup icon is present on the Start menu in Windows XP Home Edition, nor is Backup listed in Add Remove Programs for Windows XP Home edition. No mention of the utility is made anywhere during the installation, but it is included with Windows XP Home Edition. It's just necessary to do a manual install to prepare it for use.

To Manually Install the Backup Utility:

Insert the CD Rom and navigate to CD-ROM Drive:\VALUEADD\MSFT\NTBACKUP

Double-click the Ntbackup.msi file to start the wizard that installs Backup

When the wizard is complete, click Finish.
godfather (25)
178856 2003-09-29 06:03:00 Thanks Beama. Seems damned odd to me. I would have thought that it was a fairly basic and essential component of any system. Anyone out there running the home edition care to offer advice on what you use? Scouse (83)
178857 2003-09-29 06:41:00 Elephant and Godfather.
Much appreciated. Once again the Oracles have spoken. (Wonder which half-wit approved the release of that system.) Scouse
Scouse (83)
178858 2003-09-29 07:28:00 I use Ghost to take a snapshot of each system when it has all critical applications loaded and running as I want them.

Then I do daily backups to a second removeable HDD on each system.
I back-up all files that I have worked on, and that have changed (incremental backup)

I back-up the entire e-mail system and attachments

Approximately weekly I burn the above to CD-R

To back-up I do not use any "software" as such, just a DOS batch file:

xcopy c:\data\*.* e:\p4\*.* /y/d/s
xcopy c:\"program files"\qualcomm\eudora\*.* e:\p4\*.* /y/d/s


This takes a few seconds only to run. I don't need to backup all the Eudora files, but its just as easy to do so.

While a backup system would compress the files, space is not an issue with removeable HDD. I have 6 drives that get cycled around with the last 3 being kept in a fireproof safe, along with the backup CD-Rs

I also periodically cross transfer the key data files between PCs over the LAN.
godfather (25)
178859 2003-09-29 08:11:00 *Copies and modifies batch file for own use*. Thanks godfather ;) PoWa (203)
178860 2003-09-29 09:20:00 Actually Godfather can you help me for the code in excluding files that I don't want copied, ie tmp files etc??

I want to backup my user profile in Documents and Settings, as that can be a real pain to lose all your settings. So far I've got:

xcopy C:\"Documents and Settings"\Powa\*.* L:\Stuff\Backups\Powa\*.* /y/d/h/r/e/

I want to exlcude files such as ntuser.dat etc, which can't get copied anyway because its in use, and tmp files. I did a xcopy /? command but it doesn't make much sense. All the ways I've tried don't work. Thanks!
PoWa (203)
178861 2003-09-29 10:24:00 Either specify all the files you do want, or use wildcards to help .

Its not easy (AFAIK) to use an exclusion under command line structure .

I am sure someone will now prove me wrong, but that would be good anyway for what you want to do .

Wildcards are easy, if wanting all Excel documents . xl? will give all variants .
So, if there were a lot of documents you want that start with . j, use . j?? .

I admit being able to use NOT . tmp would be useful (not to me, but to you) so wait and see if any DOS experts comment?
godfather (25)
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