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| Thread ID: 38153 | 2003-09-29 03:32:00 | Is it safe to download music? | amazon (3976) | Press F1 |
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| 178801 | 2003-09-29 03:32:00 | With all the media it has had lately regarding prosecution, is it safe for me to download from Kazaa? I have only ever downloaded ancient music for dad, probably 3 songs in the last 3 months. Is it too risky to carry on, or what do you guys think? | amazon (3976) | ||
| 178802 | 2003-09-29 03:42:00 | to be actually honest..its actually illegal 2 download anything that is covered by copyright...ie music or software full versions... but the other thing is..if they go after 1 person on kazaa then they would "have to" go after the others...so i kinda thinking that if they wanna go after kazaa they would go after the main person who runs it but i dont think ne one actually "owns" kazaa..i dunno actually all we can do is either stop downloading..or just download and dont say a word about it and pray no one would come after you... |
csinclair83 (200) | ||
| 178803 | 2003-09-29 05:12:00 | No one owns or controls what is on the network used by Kazaa Media Desktop, but as people will be people (and want stuff for free), many people share material covered by copyright on the network. Now, currently, the RIAA has stuck to prosecuting those who are actually making copyrighted material available in large numbers. This means that, for the moment, the chances are that if you are sharing one song, or downloading songs, they will not prosecute you - yet. Most of us know that downloading material covered by copyrights is illegal (because some people seriously do not know that, or refuse to think it - something to do with their mindframe probably), so if you have downloaded copyrighted music from the internet, you most likely know that you have broken laws. I think there is something like copyrights cease to be effective fifty years after the death of the person holding the copyright, but no doubt record companies own the copyright for many songs, and therefore will continue to hold the copyright for as long as they exist. However, I am not sure if this particular part of copyrights would apply to music. Analysts have commented on the RIAA's activities, labelling them as "shock tactics" designed to scare people, but true fanatics of sharing music will find ways to 'beat' the RIAA. If you use software such as Kazaa Lite K++ - with it's built in IP Blocker, you might think you're better off than without using it. But while this may be true, there has been debate on forums about the banned IP list. It has been found that people will add entries such as "127.0.0.1 - YOU ARE GETTING SUED TOMMORROW" to the list. Such bogus entries can scare many users, but many are commenting that they are simply annoying. Apparently the PeerGuardian database isn't verified too often, and so good-willed people and perhaps the RIAA are adding IPs for websites and saying they are the RIAA... ie, people look at statistics and say "PG blocked 17 hits from the RIAA yesterday, I need to lay low". The reality is, file sharing is dubious. If you want to share files, I urge you to only share software which you are allowed to redistribute, such as drivers or demo software. If you want to download files, please stick to legal files. Yes, there are underlying issues with downloading illegal copies of songs, and many people complain that record prices are too high. And just for your information, it is illegal to use Kazaa Lite, Kazaa Lite K++, and any other software derived from the full-blown Kazaa Media Desktop software. This is due to the nature in which the software was created, in which Sharman Networks could claim that people reverse engineered their software in order to create Kazaa Lite. |
agent (30) | ||
| 178804 | 2003-09-29 05:35:00 | Go prepaid internet on a left open phone jack ;) :D Cover ur tracks! On the serious side, I am too unsure what exactly to believe. How risk adverse is ur personality? |
nomad (3693) | ||
| 178805 | 2003-09-29 05:51:00 | I can understand what prepaid internet means, but what's a left open phone jack? You'd be better off reading some of the stuff at www.2600.org.nz (http:). Enough said... |
agent (30) | ||
| 178806 | 2003-09-29 05:54:00 | the law doesnt seem 2 stop neone these days? whats the government doing in the states regarding the law? or are all the arrests for copyright breaches/illegal downloads being kept secret so we dont know? |
csinclair83 (200) | ||
| 178807 | 2003-09-29 06:09:00 | Thanks for the replies....I realise people who are copying large amounts and using it for perhaps profit in some way are asking for trouble, I have a friend who will make up a CD for $12, your choice of songs. I am a very low user, perhaps 2-3 CDs per year maximum. I enjoy getting the odd song, but seriously wonder if there is a huge risk of me being sued? After all, there must be millions of people worldwide copying them.? As for the prepaid internet idea...I have no idea what that is! I use one of NZ's largest ISP's, can the music bods trace me? After all, dosen't my computer only broadcast a number, not name? I still buy CDs quite often, however I will certainly not pay $30 plus for one song in particular when it is free through Kazaalite... Is there a website which monitors the "prosecytions", or "risk factors" regarding the use of kazaalite etc? Thanks guys...have a great night |
amazon (3976) | ||
| 178808 | 2003-09-29 06:12:00 | Oops, spelling...I mean prosecutions...jeeze my keyboard skills are fading.... | amazon (3976) | ||
| 178809 | 2003-09-29 06:25:00 | > I still buy CDs quite often, however I will certainly > not pay $30 plus for one song in particular when it > is free through Kazaalite... That's where your thinking is wrong. It's not "free" through Kazaa - it's "stolen", or "pirated" through Kazaa. Otherwise I may as well walk into a CD Shop and just take one of the CDs without paying for it... it's "free" cause I could get it without paying for it - oops, no, it wasn't free, it was stolen. Mike. |
Mike (15) | ||
| 178810 | 2003-09-29 08:00:00 | > And just for your information, it is illegal to use Kazaa Lite, Kazaa Lite K++, and any other software derived from the full-blown Kazaa Media Desktop software. This is due to the nature in which the software was created, in which Sharman Networks could claim that people reverse engineered their software in order to create Kazaa Lite. PCW included kazaalite on their cover disk a few months ago :o I see sharman networks have sued the RIAA for copyright infringment of their kazaa software. Apparently the RIAA has been releasing their own versions of kazaalite with warning messages to potential infringers. lol, a slap in the face for the RIAA. As far as using a prepay mobile phone (connected via mobile jetstream or otherwise) for downloading illegal stuff, its a good idea, but I think they can triangulate your location if you are in range of 2-3 cell towers at once. If you insist on usig k-lite, the best you can do is run an IP blocker, route it through a few anonymous proxies, or maybe try a P2P program like Earth Station 5. Still doesn't take care of the trail you left at your ISP though, so if the RIAA manage to find your ISP there will be incriminating logs! I think a program that connects your computer to an anonymous proxy via an SSL encrypted stream is the best way to go. |
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