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| Thread ID: 38153 | 2003-09-29 03:32:00 | Is it safe to download music? | amazon (3976) | Press F1 |
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| 178831 | 2003-11-23 23:25:00 | A quick view on replicating music which you already have, in case the CD, record, is destroyed, stolen etc. One copy for yourself is lawful in the USA. No copies are lawful in NZ. Essentially you purchase a thing (CD, cassette, whatever) which will allow prerecorded music to play. If that thing no longer works, through no fault of the manufacturer, then it is gone. Just like a book which accidently gets burnt. The author isn't going to supply you with a free copy. It is a clear breach of the owners rights, to copy music, or anything, without consent. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 178832 | 2003-11-23 23:37:00 | One thing I've noticed in this thread, is the very few "regular" who refuse to come to grips that downloading mp3's from P2P app's and other methods are staying well away. Is it that most people now understand it's illegal? (piracy) |
Archibald (180) | ||
| 178833 | 2003-11-23 23:41:00 | Leaving aside the question of whether what is commonly called music really is music or just mindless cacophony ( :) ), if one is prepared to pay a subscription to Live365, you can listen legally to all the music you want, as royalties on each track played are paid by Live365. | Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 178834 | 2003-11-24 02:40:00 | > One thing I've noticed in this thread, is the very > few "regular" who refuse to come to grips that > downloading mp3's from P2P app's and other methods > are staying well away. > > Is it that most people now understand it's illegal? > (piracy) Nah, I'd say it's because they are all sick of repeating the same old spiel all the time. ;-) |
Fire-and-Ice (3910) | ||
| 178835 | 2003-11-24 04:18:00 | >> Nah, I'd say it's because they are all sick of > repeating the same old spiel all the time. ;-) Agreed. This is a moral as well as legal issue. Not new either. Dates from the early 1960s when consumers began to buy tape recorders. When the tape cassette was invented, and manufacturers started to bundle radios with tape recorders - then dubbing was all on. Later dual tape machines appeared and recently recordable CDs. So copying has been going on for about 40 years now. Why? Well everyone loves free stuff. And there is a perception that music and software are exorbitantly priced. Plus the disingenuous argument that having bought the stuff, you should have it (or copies) for ever. This doesn't apply to anything else in life but why bother with logic. Copyright piracy is a real conundrum. Most people wouldn't (hopefully) put a washer in a parking meter. Or walk out of a shop with a CD. Both cases of dishonesty. Yet the same decent people will copy music etc without a second thought. Still morally and legally wrong. This leads to the argument that when a law is so widely ignored by the general population, it is no longer good law. And maybe that is true. Copyright originally developed in England in Elizabethan times under pressure from printers. They wanted to protect their publications and cared nothing for the actual authors who didn't get the benefit of copyright for about another 200 years. Imagine writing some software or music, spending months on it, and finding you make $100 all up cos everyone has copied it. How would you feel? |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 178836 | 2003-11-25 02:36:00 | "Essentially you purchase a thing (CD, cassette, whatever) which will allow prerecorded music to play. If that thing no longer works, through no fault of the manufacturer, then it is gone. Just like a book which accidently gets burnt. " However it is not unreasonable to expect that it will last forever, assuming it is not maltreated. To design in redundancy is surely a breach of the consumer guarantees act - the bit that says that goods must be suitable for the purpose for which they are bought. It doesn't give a time limit. |
Chris Randal (521) | ||
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