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Thread ID: 38164 2003-09-29 09:06:00 Hand/Wrists Problem,.related 2 computer use csinclair83 (200) Press F1
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178947 2003-09-29 11:41:00 OK guys, the first thing is to think yourself into starwars . When they're zooming around doing flips in their rocket ships shooting up the aliens - do they have hands waving around their ears reaching for things on high shelves and in strange places? Do you see them tensing their bodies in contorted shapes? The answer is NO .

Design your computer like a rocket ship and you're away . Comfortable chair, shoulders loose, hands below elbows, minimal movements .

My mouse support started as an inch high piece of firm foam and progressed to a gel one from somewhere like Stationary Warehouse . Also have one at work and wrist supports both here and at work .
Heather P (163)
178948 2003-09-29 11:43:00 u mite be developin cysts in ur wrists, they can be removed in two ways, surgery or just by exercisin ur wrists slowly everyday to keep the joints moving. vk_dre (195)
178949 2003-09-29 11:48:00 now ur scarying me...but facts are better than hiding the truth....
i'll take ur recommendation and go to the doctor...and for now i got my wrist bandaged to support it...
csinclair83 (200)
178950 2003-09-29 12:54:00 Gel wrist rests for both keyboard and mouse makes a world of difference to me now. Almost contemplating carrying them around with me for use at polytech when I'm there.

Also consider getting a Natural keyboard I've used one for a while and think they're rather brilliant to use, only problem is that the later models Microsoft have screwed with the keyboard layout :@
-=JM=- (16)
178951 2003-09-29 18:18:00 Not sure if it has been mentioned yet or not, but you would be doing yourself a great favour by cutting back on the time you spend on your PC, or at least having regular rest breaks .

Those rest breaks should not be spent playing on some other device like a Playstation or x-Box either . . . . . .
Susan B (19)
178952 2003-09-29 22:00:00 You rally ought to see your GP and get advise. From your symptoms you are not developing CTS (carpal tunnel syndrome). As for OOS and RSI which are one in the same, two eras each trying to define the same problem, it is now not recognised as diagnosis merely a description of a group of physical symptoms and occasionally signs. It's basic origin is in bad positioning of the hands in relation to the work task, in this instance a mouse and keyboard. In particular the wrist is usually cocked upwards (extended), a very unnatural position for the human body for more than a short time. The body much prefers the neutral to flexed position. So, the wrist being extended on the mouse/keyboard for long periods causes spasm in the extensor muscles and the pain, etc. One of the classic indicators for this is that leave the action alone and the pain will go. Persist and you are likely to develop what is called a chronic pain syndrome, caused by centra sensitisation in the pain network. Then you have got a problem. So, frequent rest breaks and simple exercises, much like the athlete would employ to keep their muscles healthy. Why see your doctor - to rule out physical things like CTS and tendonitis, etc. They require different forms of treament.

Crunn (an MD)
Crunn (1068)
178953 2003-09-29 23:58:00 after sleeping all night...woke up and its not sore :D
rest must be the cure....
so i guess i gonna have alot of rest coming up
and no i dont have a playstation or xbox to "rest" with....

i'd go to the doctor if i wasnt a poor student..or would acc cover it?
csinclair83 (200)
178954 2003-09-30 01:59:00 >after sleeping all night . . . woke up and its not sore
>rest must be the cure . . . . >so i guess i gonna have alot of rest coming up
>and no i dont have a playstation or xbox to "rest" with . . . .

>i'd go to the doctor if i wasnt a poor student . . or would acc cover it?


Chris

You have had a heap of useful advice, but your last post suggests that you are going into denial . One night's rest does not cure RSI, OOS, CTS, or whatever else you want to call it .

Get your priorities right or you will be looking for new career options that don't involve the use of your forearms/wrists/hands .

1) See the doctor urgently . ACC may help with the cost .

2) Stop all unneccessary computer usage, especially games .

3) Follow the very sound postural, keyboard shortcut and mouse alignment advice you have been given .

4) Take regular breaks from your computer during every day .

5) Imagine how you would follow your interests and dreams if you could not use your hands to operate a computer .

6) Return to 1) as many times as necessary until you can take this condition seriously .

When I commenced computing in 1994 I had my keyboard and mouse too high . Within months I had sore wrists and numbness, just as you describe . Apart from taking medical advice, I got my keyboard down to knee-level using a pull out keyboard tray mounted below my desktop . My mouse sits on a tray slightly lower (I actually pull out the second drawer of my desk and place a flat sheet of melteca on it as a surface for my mousepad to sit on) .

My hands falls naturally to the keyboard and mouse, and the heel of my mousing hand rests on the "wristpad" not my wrist as that is an invitation to further wrist & tendon problems as your wrist is compressed . Mose acceleration & movement are set high so that I can control the mouse cursor over a full screen with small fingers movement only .

I regularly work 7 days a week from 8:30am to around 10-11pm some nights, but I have never had a problem since . I always stop working if my hands & wrists feel fatigued and I take regular micro-breaks throughout the day .

I won't wish you good luck, I wish you good management .

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
178955 2003-09-30 02:26:00 If you're a student, you are automatically entitled to a Community Services Card.

Student Health (in Auckland) would allow students with student ID and a valid Community Services Card, free healthcare.

I was a poor student once too, you know! ;)

Lo.
Lohsing (219)
178956 2003-09-30 03:10:00 hello guys...
been to the doctor...got a appointment for 3:45pm 2morrow since hes busy today and they not giving me acc but giving me 2 days to pay (it might change after hes talked 2 me 2morrow)...its gonna take longer..and yes thats with a Coms service card...**** happens
but yeah am gonna take this seriously...i know its scary but yeah

and thanks guys for all ur advice :-)

and lohsing..i'm not offically a student yet...i dont do ne courses at the moment, dont start till febuary next year...so yeah...
csinclair83 (200)
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