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Thread ID: 38290	2003-10-02 22:56:00	OT: Lessons for Paul Holmes	agent (30)	Press F1

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179961	2003-10-04 03:16:00	[Ad: argos] . What is 'Political Correctness'? It is the inane but dangerous thought and speech code that threatens the free speech and intellectual curiosity of so many minds. Who started 'Political Correctness'? Oddly enough, professors motivated by the credo that "all things are relative." The original and current purveyors of 'Political Correctness' not only say there is no Truth (with a capital T). They go as far as saying there are no truths. There are, they argue, no "correct" answers, just different ones. They celebrate difference rather than individual pursuits of excellence.	Thomas (1820)
179962	2003-10-04 05:02:00	What you haven't realised is that Holmes isn't representing what most White, European NZ people are thinking. There are many many "white" NZers, as well as ones of international descent who are appauled at what he has said, and that he should be fired, or step down. He is allowed to have his own opinion, but that opinion shouldn't be directed a race of people. If he said something like that at a party or something, then fine, that's his opinion, and he's telling it to people who may or may not care. Using his job to spread his opinion is not the right thing to do. His job is to present a morning radio show, not to attack people based on their race. If he is representing what most "white" NZers are thinking(as you claim), then NZ has even more to be worried about. It's giving NZ a racist image. I am certain that most NZers, either "white" or "non-white" would not go around calling abusing someone who has worked hard to lead a top international organisation, especially using racial remarks. This bad image has immediately affected the Holmes TV show, with Mitsubishi (an international company) pulling out of sponsorship because of the bad image Paul Homes could create for them. I'm sure in the near future, some countries would think twice about buying our export goods, as buying from a country with such an image could hurt their reputation. I have lived in NZ all my life, and have seen very little racisim among the public. In fact, many many "white" Nzers who I've met are very opposed to racism - they would be opposed to someone like Holmes making such comments.	somebody (208)
179963	2003-10-04 05:05:00	Well the NZ Herald would not receive as much criticism, as they are taking a dig at Paul Holmes comment.	somebody (208)
179964	2003-10-04 05:09:00	Paul Holmes has taken a good step at offering to be punished for what he's done. As a "responsible broadcaster", Newstalk ZB should accept his resignation, and move on. They will keep a majority of NZ happy, and show themselves as a good responsible NZ broadcaster who is willing to do what is right. Rejecting his resignation is diging themselves a deeper hole.	somebody (208)
179965	2003-10-04 05:13:00	Nobody is saying that free speech should not be allowed. Free speech however does not include making racist remarks on a national broadcast radio station. Paul Homes is allowed free speech - he can say that Kofi Annan isn't doing his job well - but he shouldn't be generalising the entire Ghandan race as "cheeky".	somebody (208)
179966	2003-10-04 05:15:00	> What is wrong with prostitutes? Hmmm, i wonder, wot is wrong with prostitutes? I dunno bout u guys but hoes r for those that are desperate for some action, they should be banned, its just not rite, we should promote a "Clean" environment one without all these "dirty" things. :D	vk_dre (195)
179967	2003-10-04 10:50:00	How does Paul take his kofi? dark or light?	nickitwo (2885)
179968	2003-10-04 11:14:00	> How does Paul take his kofi? dark or light? Yo, that wasnt funny bro, it seemed kinda stupid and pathetic, even if it was a play on words.	vk_dre (195)
179969	2003-10-04 11:34:00	Yo, that wasnt funny bro, it seemed kinda stupid and pathetic, even if it was a play on words. If you cant take a joke vkdr how about you leave NZ and go to some dreary place like Albania. It is very common for white european new zealand born people to joke about all manners of things if you dont like it please leave. tedheath	tedheath (537)
179970	2003-10-04 19:35:00	"to joke about all manners of things" means doing it around friends, families, or people who share the same views. As you can see from a majority of the above posts, people (of many different race, genders, and religions) are opposed to such "jokes". Therefore it is unsuitable for those sort of "jokes" on this public forum, especially since it is obvious that people are against potentially offending racist comments.	somebody (208)
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