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| Thread ID: 38290 | 2003-10-02 22:56:00 | OT: Lessons for Paul Holmes | agent (30) | Press F1 |
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| 179931 | 2003-10-03 00:16:00 | Interesting how someone can say "cheeky darkie" and everyone is up in arms but when the NZ herald has "cheeky whitie" on the front page everyone one just has a laugh and no one complains to the human rights commission about that?? Just a thought. |
Budda (2736) | ||
| 179932 | 2003-10-03 00:18:00 | whilst I don't partically like paul holmes , I do feel sorry for him .. Yet no one gets uptight about Mike King calling people "Honkeys" on his sad atempt at a chat show. I can not differentiate between the two. NZ the land of Political Correctness gone MAD .. |
Weezer (2266) | ||
| 179933 | 2003-10-03 00:25:00 | > the NZ herald has "cheeky whitie" on the front page > everyone one just has a laugh Well actually, if you can find a copy of yesterdays Herald, if you look on A2, there is a box that states they received complaints about the use of the term 'cheeky whitey', and those complaints are being handled by the same authority handling the complaints against Paul Holmes' 'cheeky darkie' comments. The Herald claims they were used in a satirical fashion, but Holmes could also claim he used the term in a satirical fashion. |
agent (30) | ||
| 179934 | 2003-10-03 01:03:00 | Paul Holmes is neither the most experienced broadcaster, most talented interviewer or debater. He is probably the most highly paid. His technique and ego give me the creepers and he almost always gives rise to a feeling of embarrassment that this is supposed to be the premier broadcaster in NZ when I chance on his program (which is usually incidental). I do not have a problem as such with people having ego's. In fact I believe it can be a good thing to have a slightly bigger ego than your abilities as it sets a bar you have to strive for but, having an overblown ego to cover for lack of talent and then put it forward as the be all and end all of public broadcasting suggests something lacking in these fair isles. I guess you're getting my drift, sack him, twice. Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 179935 | 2003-10-03 01:15:00 | i think paul is a great broadcaster but his weakness is speaking before he thinks... and this makes me wonder..what happened to freedom of speech? i know what he said was wrong...but this whole issue is just out of proportion..like if i said it to a m8 around here..they would probably just laugh..or just say dont be rude and thats the end of it.. its only this big a issue coz hes a "public icon" and he apologised..more than once....i think they should just chop his pay for 1 month..as if he'll miss it...and give it to UN charity..or 2 months even...and leave it at that..oh and give him a warning...happens again ur gone no questions... just because hes a public icon doesnt mean he deserves 2 be fired or anything..hes still human like us... |
csinclair83 (200) | ||
| 179936 | 2003-10-03 01:36:00 | R.I.P tolerance. | Pheonix (280) | ||
| 179937 | 2003-10-03 01:42:00 | > and this makes me wonder..what happened to freedom of > speech? i know what he said was wrong...but this > whole issue is just out of proportion..like if i said > it to a m8 around here..they would probably just > laugh..or just say dont be rude and thats the end of > it.. > its only this big a issue coz hes a "public icon" But the problem is that he didn't say it to only a friend. He said it in a public forum broadcast to a national audience. It's comments like these which get reported by the international media, which gets picked up by other people internationally, which in turn makes NZ look like a bigoted racist country. Remember, it's the media who control what you read and watch. To sensational-ise the story, they will report that he called the head of the UN a cheeky darkie. Lo. |
Lohsing (219) | ||
| 179938 | 2003-10-03 01:55:00 | Holmes shouldnt get fired. He is just saying what most White, European New Zealand born people are thinking. If someone said something like white trash, or honkey its ok. Holmes is a nice compassionate guy born in rural NZ we should be proud of him. tedheath |
tedheath (537) | ||
| 179939 | 2003-10-03 02:19:00 | > > Holmes shouldnt get fired. He is just saying what > most White, European New Zealand born people are > thinking. > If someone said something like white trash, or honkey > its ok. > Holmes is a nice compassionate guy born in rural NZ > we should be proud of him. > > tedheath I trust/hope that is tongue in cheek ted? > i think paul is a great broadcaster but his weakness is speaking before > he thinks... Which is precisely one reason why he is not a great broadcaster. He has tabloid hack written all over him, he is devicive and sensationalist and lowest common denominator which, is why he works on talkback. Put him on the telley and he's a bumbling goof IMO. I try and avoid his show, but do admit to being caught sometimes by that baser part of my nature, when he is having a crack at something or someone (road crash). He's gone too far this time though. It may have been a judgement error but, in his position judgement errors of that magnitude are/should be fatal. If he doesn't do the honorable thing, and I'll gladly help him onto the chair ( he made the noose himself then put it on) then, sack him. Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 179940 | 2003-10-03 03:27:00 | I'm not a Holmes fan at all but it's a shame that his description of Mr Annan overshadowed his reason for calling him a cheeky umm 'indigenous person'. Mr Annan claimed that under the UN, the world had known peace for over 50 years...and Mr Holmes rattled of a long string of countries like Serbia, Rwanda, Korea whose people he said may disagree. What a cheeky umm 'General Secretary' indeed! Mr Holmes problem is that he is too passionate for his own good sometimes. Perhaps the message he tried to get out is what people should worry about rather than his momentary loss of good taste. |
oggy (1250) | ||
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