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180757 2004-01-13 08:51:00 Is it 2004 or 1984 . . . Orwell is here and living large man!!!

The question is how far wil governments go to protect the privacy of its country's citizens . . .

If ever MS got this proposal right it would seriously impede on one's freedom of choice . Somehow I don't see large amounts of people including politicians agreeing to this sort proposal . . . but if you really look at it, this is what their plan entails . . . . piracy and hacking etc will be put to an end (so they say) however it would appear that this will be done at the expense of every citizen's freedom of choice . . . your choice as to what software you want to run?

Of course I could go on further and say that if MS spent a little more time on it's projects . . . . refining them and ensuring the consumer gets what they want or indeed what MS promised . . . then there'd be no problems really but instead they find themselves releasing software which is riddled with bugs . If they did that we wouldn't have people who adopt the so-called (ANTI MICROSOFT) attitude .

I am not against MS however I do believe that their desire to be in every PC (which will never happen) is a bit worrying to say the least especially when it takes from me the right to choose .

Somehow scenes from the Terminator movies come to mind, no more humans just a bunch of computers that in the end will self terminate cos there was a bug in their OS .

If that were to happen then it would seem that fate is not without a sense of irony . . . .

I would like to take theplunge into the world of linux . . . but i guess like everyone else I am too scared to leave my MS inner sanctum . . . it's not that I liack the technical expertise to change over I simply donot have enough time to look up all the kernels etc, Linux is a great OS but the initial commitment you have to put into it at the start seems to scare everyone away . . . .

And with that long winded "I hope that made some sense in the end" speech I will bid you all a farewell .


cheers
chiefnz
chiefnz (545)
180758 2004-01-13 11:35:00 > I am not against MS however I do believe that their
> desire to be in every PC (which will never happen)
> is a bit worrying to say the least

Gee Whiz!!!!!!!!!!

Correct me if I am wrong, but all MS are doing, is SELLING computer software?

Just like . . . . . . .
Watties would like everyone to buy their brand of canned goodies
Cadbury's wanting to sell everyone chocolates
Shell to have all cars filled with their petrol
Honda to be the #one selling motor bike
Mitre 10 to be the only place you can buy building products
Harcourts to be the only real estate agents
McDonald to be the only fast food
Pepsi to put CocaCola out of business

You are the one with the choices . If you don't want a MS product, don't damn well buy one . Install Linux or whatever Or design your own .

But stop snivelling on about MS trying to take over the world . They won't, they can't and they never will . Whats the big deal
Baldy (26)
180759 2004-01-13 12:27:00 Pepsi will never put Coke Cola out of business while Im around .... ;-) Chilling_Silently (228)
180760 2004-01-13 12:46:00 Baldy,For the love of god just ****.

We are by all means allowed to discuss the direction MS are taking with such an importent piece of software without your rantings.

Its not like you actually disputed any statements or facts(percieved or otherwise)

I bet your the kind of guy who think BP are the greatest company on earth after their round of feel good ads.
metla (154)
180761 2004-01-13 13:10:00 What feel good ads would those be?

Anyway, at least most companies have the good sense not to announce that they want a computer running Windows in every household (because didn't nice Mr Gates announce that a few decades ago?) in the world.

Those sorts of statements just scare me. So do ones like "now we can make China pay for our products".

If you look at just how screwed up the US can get, it isn't hard to imagine them making TCPA a reality. Take a look at the actions of Senator Fritz whatever, who the Fritz chip is named after. Take a look at things like the DMCA, and the record companies selling CDs that aren't actually CDs. Was it not the US that was as stupid to make permanent markers illegal (something like that) because they could be used to circumvent copy control protections on CDs? Or the government which is still scared of terrorists using planes to destroy buildings, despite the fact that most citizens on board such a plane now-a-days most likely wouldn't let people overtake a plane with boxcutters.
agent (30)
180762 2004-01-13 20:37:00 > I spent a lot of time trying Linux (several
> versions), & came to the conclusion that it was a
> waste of time as a Desk Top. ( Very good for servers
> etc)
> Lousy software, lousy fonts, difficult to operate &
> setup, takes too long to boot up etc etc.

Mzee might wish to look at
science.newsfactor.com Wisdom_of_Open_Source&story_id=22862&category=scnce
TonyF (246)
180763 2004-01-13 22:03:00 > Correct me if I am wrong, but all MS are doing, is
> SELLING computer software?

I agree with you totally Baldy, they are selling computers, however let's not be blind to the fact that MS has considerable commercial clout in the computer market as well as in other industries, not because of their involvement but because of their sheer financial strength . All they need to do is pump a hell of a lot of money (which incidentally they do have) into the right areas (hands) to get the window of opportunity they need to push forward .

US politians are easy targets . . . what with the threat of terrorism along with the relatively high state of paranoia in the US . . . how easy do you think it would be to convince congress that if they leave MS unchallenged it would make spying on potential terrorist threats easier .

> You are the one with the choices . If you don't want a
> MS product, don't damn well buy one . Install Linux or
> whatever Or design your own .

How do I have a choice when am I going to be forced to buy certain appplications because my CPU or other hardware won't run anything else . Essentially I see it as MS saying . . . " hey guys use our products and pay more for it or learn Linux", personally, I do not have a problem with that but how many members of the world's computing population would be willing to spend time teaching themselves Linux . . . Indeed how many businesses will be able to afford a capital investment on the hardware and software this move will require . . . .

The big picture here is that if you take away an individual's/business' right to choose the direction of their computing solution . . . that is if you do not allow them to choose the most cost-effective option (ie the cheapest) then they would not bother . . . what sort of impact will this have on world trade, companies on one side of the globe cannot trade with the other cos their OS isn't Windows 2011 . . . .

Dare I say this is not about being against MS . . . . it's more about preserving a freedom each and every one of us has taken for granted for so long . . . . the freedom to decide . . . . the freedom to choose between Coca Cola or Pepsi, the choice between Vogels and that other bread no-one really likes .
>
> But stop snivelling on about MS trying to take over
> the world . They won't, they can't and they never
> will . Whats the big deal

Again Baldy I agree with you, however it's not the world they are trying to take over, it's our freedom of choice they are attempting to take away .

What sort of a world would it be if I can't decide things for myself???

cheers
chiefnz
chiefnz (545)
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