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180737	2003-10-07 05:51:00	I've read the EULA's on a fair few of Microsoft's products. All that's happened so far is me being extremely picky with my firewall rules. For example, Windows Media Player isn't even allowed to access the internet, and I don't use Automatic Updates, and I've toyed around with MSN Messenger firewall rules until I've got the bare essential connections allowed only. A bit of sense plus some good utilities can keep snoops at bay...	agent (30)
180738	2003-10-07 08:16:00	> Nobody will buy into that crap. The palladium morons > (Microsoft, AMD and Intel) will all die, and everyone > will be either running older chips or they'll switch > over to mac. So yeah kinda good, it'll kill off MS. > :) Sadly most computer users aren't smart enough to realise what this stuff is really all about. I think that it will be marketed to them as some kind of way to avoid viruses and worms. What will you do if you apply for a job and the company wants your CV in Word 2010 format but you don't have Word 2010 because it requires Windows 2010, which only runs on hardware trusted by MS? The most obvious way around this to me is open hardware. I know there are already some open hardware designs out there and when combined with nanotechnology, we could eventually end up making our own hardware (as I understand it anyway).	segfault (655)
180739	2003-10-07 09:18:00	You people are a joke! You slag off Microsoft but the fact remains that if you have to get on with some work, you use Microsoft. I spent a lot of time trying Linux (several versions), & came to the conclusion that it was a waste of time as a Desk Top. ( Very good for servers etc) Lousy software, lousy fonts, difficult to operate & setup, takes too long to boot up etc etc. The only other systems of any note, are OS2 by IBM which died through lack of software support, and Apple.	Mzee (158)
180740	2003-10-07 09:29:00	>You people are a joke! >You slag off Microsoft but the fact remains that if you have to get on with some work, you use Microsoft. Well their Trusted Computing idea is plain rubbish. If you can't see that, and the consequences of it then I suggest you do some more reading.	PoWa (203)
180741	2003-10-07 09:32:00	> You people are a joke! > You slag off Microsoft but the fact remains that if > you have to get on with some work, you use > Microsoft. josiah@AMD1700:~$ uname -a Linux AMD1700 2.4.22 #6 Tue Sep 2 17:43:01 PDT 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux Apparently by 2005, Linux will be on well over 10% of home PC's in the Asia-Pacific region! > I spent a lot of time trying Linux (several > versions), & came to the conclusion that it was a > waste of time as a Desk Top. ( Very good for servers > etc) > Lousy software, lousy fonts, difficult to operate & > setup, takes too long to boot up etc etc. Okay, I'll let you have that one.. But only for the time being... Ever try Mandrake Linux? Chances are when you booted your PC, you were running OpenSSH, Apache, Squid (maybe), Samba, Sendmail, Bind, not to mention an array of other servers... Did you need them all? I doubt it... Specialized Distro's are on the way.. just give it time.. ;-)	Chilling_Silently (228)
180742	2003-10-07 20:24:00	> You people are a joke! > You slag off Microsoft but the fact remains that if > you have to get on with some work, you use > Microsoft. I'd be interested to know where you got that from. I've been a full time GNU/Linux user for almost 2 years now and I have never had to use windows to "get on with some work". What does it mean to "get on with some work" anyway? I have no problems emailing people or browsing the internet, but I don't know whether you would consider that "work". If what you said is true, why are businesses switching to Linux on the desktop at an ever increasing rate? > I spent a lot of time trying Linux (several > versions), & came to the conclusion that it was a > waste of time as a Desk Top. ( Very good for servers > etc) > Lousy software, lousy fonts, difficult to operate & > setup, takes too long to boot up etc etc. You don't seem to understand how open source development works. If you don't like it, do something about it! Nothing is going to happen with you being an armchair critic. I email open source software developers when I see something I would like changed or improved and more often than not they are quite nice about it. I find your comments hard to believe. "Lousy software": I'm sure that there is some software out there that is lousy, but there is a lot of very good software for GNU/Linux (I personally haven't come across any lously software yet!). It is quite hard to reply to this comment without knowing what software you are talking about, but I will give you the example of Apache, which runs 64.61% and climbing at the last count. "Lousy fonts": Again. without knowing which fonts you are talking about, this is hard to rebut. There are some perfectly good fonts that are just as good, if not better than MS fonts here (www.gnome.org). It doesn't take much work to get them to work with a distro that doesn't include them, although they are usually included on most distros now. "Difficult to operate & setup": Again, your statement is very vague and I'm not sure what you are talking about. Were you trying to set up a winmodem or trying to set up network authentication with LDAP and Kerberos? Anyway, I find this hard to believe. I have had the privilege of helping out at 2 Linux installfests and I have installed Linux on a large variety of hardware. The biggest problem people have is with partitioning. For the rest of it, I could have just about left them to do it by themselves. The winmodems were very easy to set up - I had the rpm's on disc and they worked out of the box. "Takes too long to boot": Okay, this can be true. If you are running things such as OpenSSH, Apache, MySQL then you can't expect it to start up very quick. This can be fixed quite easily by turning off services that start at bootup. I can't remember how long my boot time is, but its not really important because the uptime of my machine is so good that I don't boot it often. It does boot quite quick however. I agree that Linux is great for servers, but I also think that its great for desktops too. I've been using Linux on the desktop for as long as I've been using Linux, and its not all that hard. So maybe we aren't a joke?	segfault (655)
180743	2003-10-07 22:08:00	"The only other systems of any note, are OS2 by IBM which died through lack of software support, and Apple." OS/2 is not dead young man-it is seeing a bit of a revilal in Europe via eComstation- and one can do a LOT of work using Linux! The old hard to install, crappy font line is getting very long in the tooth nowdays too I might add. Just recently did an install of an older Red Hat distro(RH7.3) and everything ran real smooth-using WindowMaker as my default user window manager becease I like its clean layout. I just installed OpenOffice.org this mourning -it ownloaded nicely overnight on my dialup connection. Using tools such as apt and synaptic make installing programs a breeze for us newbies and doing a little reading on Linux helps a lot. Its differant than the MS offerings but deffinately does make a good desktop OS.	mark.p (383)
180744	2003-10-08 02:37:00	Just a useless piece of information: on a clean install of Windows ME, it takes less than a second between the time you tell it to shutdown and the time the computer turns off (if you have ATX) :D Anyway, I'm thinking I might boot into MDK soon and turn off a few startup services...	agent (30)
180745	2003-10-08 02:45:00	> the fact remains that if you have to get on with some work, you use Microsoft. Really? At the moment I am doing an Economics survey for school using Linux, and OpenOffice is great for making tables, graphs, etc. I have used Linux on my desktop for over a year now and I find it fantastically flexible compared to Windows. Most of the software I use works well, the fonts look great and it is easy to setup. And long boot times? About a month ago I made a Linux From Scratch (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org) system that booted in under 25 seconds.	flyer590 (2523)
180746	2003-10-08 09:51:00	> Linux From > Scratch (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org) system that booted in under 25 seconds. What's that running on? I boot slack 9.1 in 19 on my Athlon XP 1700+	Chilling_Silently (228)
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