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| 181090 | 2003-10-08 08:09:00 | Why are there so many patches required for MS products: 1. Windows, etc. is designed for PCs, not status symbols from Apple. 2. MS and their agents are continually searching for bugs, and issue patches to fix them. Strange people take note of this, and create nasties to catch users who have been reckless enough not to have installed the patches (some of these strange people are reputed to be paid by Apple). 3. Because so few people are prepared to go back to the Stone Age - read 1980 and earlier - and relearn MS DOS or attempt Unix it's not worth the time for the strange people to target Linux et al. However, someone at a loose end between their dope smoking episodes is bound to discover Linux sometime, then where will the smug Linux users be? Who will provide them with patches? |
rodb (1561) | ||
| 181091 | 2003-10-08 08:11:00 | > Big John. This only came out this weekend previous > patches did not fix the problem. Did my weekly update today and no new patches so the other one was it for me. |
Big John (551) | ||
| 181092 | 2003-10-08 08:30:00 | 1. If you think of MS Windows like smoking, you can get by without either one. And have some savings in the bank earning interest or in investments 2. MS has reputedly 46US in billion cash in the bank, surely it could be used to benefit those using their products. Its starting too be used up in court settlement btw. 3. Not all computer users are Lemmings(thank goodness) jumping off cliffs because a the stress/pain and loss of earnings due to poor coding. 4. XP is basicly the same **** in a different wrapper and with Bill and Balmer sucking up to Govts world wide OSS must have them worried. It's certainly keeping MS profits down in certain non-western contries. |
mark.p (383) | ||
| 181093 | 2003-10-08 09:48:00 | Nice one Steve:D | mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 181094 | 2003-10-08 10:04:00 | > The worst thing about this security flaw is that you will be affected REGARDLESS of what browser you are using. So even if you use Mozilla, Opera or another you can still be hacked. I suggest you you go get the fix to avoid this happening. I fail to see how an Internet Explorer security hole could even remotely affect opera users. Please enlighten me. |
PoWa (203) | ||
| 181095 | 2003-10-08 10:16:00 | > However, someone at a loose end between their dope > smoking episodes is bound to discover Linux sometime, > then where will the smug Linux users be? Who will > provide them with patches? pressf1.pcworld.co.nz pressf1.pcworld.co.nz And we dont get many security patches sorry... not as many as the doze box running upstairs by any means! |
Chilling_Silently (228) | ||
| 181096 | 2003-10-09 03:17:00 | Well, it seems I've angered Mr mark.p. Somehow... an explanation would be appreciated. Who the hell are you to say that I don't have a sense of humour? You don't know me from a bar of soap, all you know is that I post on PressF1 under the alias 'agent'. You don't know anything about me, about my personality, and the best you can do is make estimates of my psychological profile, which is a little like poking mud with a stick. No, getting a good education does not necessarily mean you will be guaranteed a high paying job, and there are pyschopaths and people with psychopathic traits who are managers, CEOs, etc (literally). But if you combine education with experience, you'll be going somewhere, whereas experience can only take you so far, and it isn't hard to get experience. Wake up call. I use Windows. I have money sitting in the bank earning interest, and a term deposit earning even more interest. Most people do not think of Windows like smoking, however, there are always exceptions. > Its starting too be used up in court settlement btw. Using 'btw' on the end of that statement would tend to imply that you think people don't know that. Microsoft's troubles in various courts has been widely published for more than three years, so I don't think there are too many users of Microsoft products who do not know that Microsoft is facing getting it's behind sued. Lemmings, huh, you think that there are Windows users who are lemmings? Any company, organisation, etc using Windows computers and with a good protection strategy in place wouldn't need to install patches and updates. A good firewall configured correctly (ie, very tough permissions), combined with a virus scanning system, and sufficient education in safe use of computers for the users, will reduce just about any chance of a hole being exploited. With active monitoring by technicians, the only real risk comes from within the network itself. No one can deny that OSS is worrying Microsoft; hence OSS being moved to the top of Microsoft's threat list. But Window XP is not the same thing (and the same as what, one might ask); if you know anything about it, you will know that it was reworked a heck of a lot. Yes, it is in effect Windows 2000 with a flashier interface and more functionality, but that's where the similarities end. Much of the code was done from scratch, some was majorly overhauled, and not much has been left the same. Microsoft may be incredibly late to start looking at increasing security more, and they may be getting started slower than they should be, but at least they are getting started. Furthermore, because of the nature of the stupid Trusted Computing crap, it is incredibly likely that governments would adopt the values set out simply because it means that they can keep a watch for terrorists, completely cut down illegal activity, and boost sales for large corporate developers. While there are some Linux activists who would like to see Trusted Computing come to Linux, if plans go ahead for certified software and hardware, you could well end up being faced to dump computers completely, or use Windows. And a last note... please keep swearing to yourself, because this is a public forum. |
agent (30) | ||
| 181097 | 2003-10-09 06:45:00 | Boy I really did open up a can of worms with my post didn't I ;-) and thanks also Jim for that link Loved it Barbie OS woohoo where can I get it :D | Odin (227) | ||
| 181098 | 2003-10-09 08:30:00 | No. You have't angered me at all agent You stillappear to have'nt found a sence of humour yet ;). | mark.p (383) | ||
| 181099 | 2003-10-09 10:16:00 | That's probably me being pedantic... :D I've been using Windows for a long time, and I don't see anything substantially wrong with it, so I can get emotional when people knock it (although I know Microsoft is a money-hoarding b1+c4) |
agent (30) | ||
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