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Thread ID: 38470 2003-10-08 03:03:00 OT: Did he win just coz hes famous? csinclair83 (200) Press F1
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181328 2003-10-08 19:26:00 Arnie cant be president he wasnt born in USA, but he is allowed to be a senator, I think its great that hes state gov, but hes got a lot of stuf ups to fix and he might end up being a scape goat if hes not careful.

But the sad thing is that really he is just a figure head for the shiver/kenady family, and in public he wont answer questions he hasnt been briefed on, (a bit like our own helen), sounds like he hasnt really got his one ideas :(
Budda (2736)
181329 2003-10-08 20:41:00 > >Hey sufficient wasn't a bad President,
> You have me there?
Ummm...stupid spell checker. Should have said "Ronnie wasn't a bad President"
But I acknowledge your point that fame isn't a necessary corollary for election. Probably in NZ only a few people get elected because of their media profile - but if you have the money you can buy a profile.
I suspect the same reality prevails in the US - that many local body politicians do not require fame to be elected. But in major elections it seems that money is the driver for success. It buys profile - or fame if you like. The more you spend the better your chances even if you do not have any previous experience or proven ability.
The problem is that this does not lead to the best people being elected. merely the ones with the most financial backing.
Winston001 (3612)
181330 2003-10-08 21:21:00 > And then Roger Douglas got in and set it back another
> ten years so we ended up twenty years behind.

Rob Muldoon may have been polarised New Zealanders but curiously the interventionist policies he followed are now being embraced by our Labour government. More rules and regulations and Govt subsidised enterprises every day. Eg. Kiwi Bank - how do you think PSIS, Taranaki Savings Bank, and the Southland Building Society (all totally NZ owned) feel about that.
Roger Douglas lead this country on a necessary path to individual choice and social freedom. The same policies have been adopted around the world. Unfortunately we have faded in the leadership stakes and are now drifting backwards towards Nanny State.
Winston001 (3612)
181331 2003-10-08 23:14:00 >The problem is that this does not lead to the best people being elected . >merely the ones with the most financial backing .


At the same time,with or witout a profile that wont ensure the right person will get elected,that requires a thoughtful voter and I say most vote on issues rather than a philosophy .
Thomas (1820)
181332 2003-10-09 23:46:00 > At the same time,with or witout a profile that wont
> ensure the right person will get elected,that
> requires a thoughtful voter and I say most vote on
> issues rather than a philosophy .

Trite but true . (sigh)
Winston001 (3612)
181333 2003-10-10 01:56:00 What i find strange is that life here seems to be imitating the movies. Does anyone remember the Stallone Movie 'Demolition Man' in after Stallone wakes up some 60 years later he finds out that Arnie was elected as Governor and that his popularity at the time cause the 63rd ammendment which then allowed him to run for president which of course he did and won. Maybe the same thing just might happen in reality so far it has ;D just my thoughts. Odin (227)
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