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Thread ID: 38539	2003-10-10 08:57:00	in basic terms what does the....do?	beetle (243)	Press F1

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182020	2003-10-11 02:07:00	yeah well if some one asks me when the back of a puter is off which component is which apart from a fan (which i think should be obvious) i have no idea what, where and how of the inards of a pc is, does or is not supposed to do or look like, apart from the odd pic on the net i am totally lost in this field. dare i say it they would all be the same to me, i wouldnt have a clue, what to do, and when people talk about vid cards or network things im lost, it comes back to what i do know im ok on, but when a new prob jumps out at me, im lost in the guagmine of insecurity again. but im learning a lot of stuff, good bad or other wise.... time will tell if it has actually sunk in enough to ever spew it out to someone in need. but thanxs to all who have given us newbs at pf1 a tiny dot in the information level on computer ins, outs and other wise mind boggling stuff. and when it comes to telling someone something of how to or where to look on a puter, screen or inards, it is often really difficult to tell how knowledgeable they are, so dont feel bad on youself BT, we gotta start somewhere, and its great to have so many helpful willing gentle people helping all the newbs who come to pf1. no appology needed BT, if i dont tell you how are you to know???? you all have done an excellent job and deserve a well earned " Pat On The Back....... " thanxs from the bottom of me pc guys..... :D beetle	beetle (243)
182021	2003-10-11 03:47:00	another question here, susan b said that when the puter is turned off (power at wall or something) that any info not saved will be lost . saved to hd? as i thought when i write / type something then save it its saved till i delete it or, it dies? does something not save it to hd then? as i said before a format, i went to save all new info, and thought i had, but when i went to search for certain items on the saved disk found it hadnt actually saved the new stuff, it only held the old info so lost a lot of my recent work when i had thought it safe . . . . . . . am i wrong in this thought? i had not unplugged it only shut it down, has someone got an explaination for me? now im confusing myself here . if i find a better way of explaining ill repost . . . beetle	beetle (243)
182022	2003-10-11 04:12:00	*let see if I can answer this question * > another question here, > > susan b said that when the puter is turned off (power > at wall or something) that any info not saved will be > lost . I think she is talking about any information in the computer memory, like if you copy & paste any information to the clip board then the power when off you world of loss that Or if you have a unsaved document that your forget to save then the power went off you would loss that as well I hope this sort of helps	stu140103 (137)
182023	2003-10-11 04:14:00	> as i said before a format, i went to save all new > info, and thought i had, but when i went to search > for certain items on the saved disk found it hadnt > actually saved the new stuff, it only held the old > info so lost a lot of my recent work when i had > thought it safe....... if that is the case then you did not backup correctly	stu140103 (137)
182024	2003-10-11 04:22:00	> another question here, > > susan b said that when the puter is turned off (power > at wall or something) that any info not saved will be > lost. > saved to hd? as i thought when i write / type > something then save it its saved till i delete it or, > it dies? does something not save it to hd then? > > as i said before a format, i went to save all new > info, and thought i had, but when i went to search > for certain items on the saved disk found it hadnt > actually saved the new stuff, it only held the old > info so lost a lot of my recent work when i had > thought it safe....... > am i wrong in this thought? i had not unplugged it > only shut it down, has someone got an explaination > for me? > > now im confusing myself here. if i find a better way > of explaining ill repost... I have just been talking to beetle about this, the above question is to do with a CD-rom Not to her Hdd	stu140103 (137)
182025	2003-10-11 04:23:00	when saving to the disk it gives me the option to overwrite the old with the new, and it should then put new in place of the old shouldnt it? at that stage i say yes, and so am not sure why it missplaced the information i thought it was copying.... cos i thought it was safe.... on cd and now since format it has no info and so ive lost a large amount of work pictures and music..... so whats happening here? beetle	beetle (243)
182026	2003-10-11 04:30:00	uh uh im trying to work out if it was lost off mother board of where ever it is stored before i backed it up as i could see the info on screen before backing it up but that it did not write it to the cd disk at all the new stuff. but also the cd writer spat the dummy at this stage... so am not sure where the problem is any more confused ? me to beetle	beetle (243)
182027	2003-10-11 04:40:00	My talk with beetle to do with this: Stuart says: Hello bug : coffee time.. says: hi stu Stu says: I had a go at answering your new question on pf1, I hope that is what you are after coffee time.. says: lol coffee time.. says: just starting to read it coffee time.. says: hey but it saved the old stuff in exactly same method.... before now.... and it tells me it is over writting old with new at the time???? Stu says: me a wee bit confused here Stu says: do you mean the files where all reday on the hdd after the format??? coffee time.. says: lol you confused think about me!!!! im totally lost coffee time.. says: no when saving say from works to disk coffee time.. says: its on the puter ok coffee time.. says: but when checking disk it hasnt saved any new work at all Stu says: do you mean on a CD-R or a CD of some sort??? coffee time.. says: oh yeah sorry coffee time.. says: not to hd C/ coffee time.. says: C: Stu says: ah ** Goes & posted that on pf1** Stu says: do you have a cd writer??? coffee time.. says: well it saved to disk ok before coffee time.. says: rewritable one it says Stu says: does the CD say CD-RW or CD-R coffee time.. says: no idea why? coffee time.. says: it doesnt save to blank disc then anyway coffee time.. says: it spat the dummy at this stage Stu says: because a CD-rw will let rewrite information to the disk & a CD-R will only let you right to the disk 1 once coffee time.. says: but it should tell me that shouldnt it if it cant write this info on to dick? coffee time.. says: when deleting something it tells me it will overwrite it Stu says: "but it should tell me that shouldnt it if it cant write this info on to dick?" yeath coffee time.. says: but susan b said its lost off the motherboard due to power shut down coffee time.. says: and i know i never shut it down before the attempt to back up this stuff coffee time.. says: and it was all still in machine i checked Stu says: I think There was 2 problems, 1, you did not write the cd correctly Stu says: 2. or there was a problem with the cd writer Stuart says: did you check the cd before you did the reformat??? coffee time.. says: no as never had a problem with overwriting stuff before and time was short.... coffee time.. says: so my fault there Stu says: when you say" no as never had a problem with overwriting stuff before and time was short...." do you mean writing a cd???? coffee time.. says: yes to the cd disk coffee time.. says: and it always did it ok before coffee time.. says: info seemed to be there whenever i checked before Stu says: yeath, but you should always check the disk after you do any cd coffee time.. says: yeah i know but it was spitting the dummy big time shutting down progs here and there and having lack of time/ sleep did not help..... Stu says: I see coffee time.. says: and i had done this more than once to save same data onto cd's and neither of them have it coffee time.. says: i did 2 cd's at same time and neither have the wanted info on it coffee time.. says: one was blank to start one was a reused one with data i could overwrite	stu140103 (137)
182028	2003-10-11 04:47:00	ok new bit.... i had stuff saved, this is works stuff, music and picture we are talking about, i opened it all before attempting to save it to a cd disk on my cd writer. this i did before i dismateld and put in box to go for formating. i had checked the cd disk and it seemed to have correct amount of files on it, : Note i did not actually open them to see if new stuff was on it, just that the correct file names where on it... so when it came back i have no info due to format (was expecting this) but when i went to put the info i had saved back onto puter its not saved to the disk the new info i wanted..... its only got the old stuff.... where has it got lost is what i am asking? i used a re writable cd and its asked me re write over same files and i said yes, it had new names on the files - sizes i mean, but no new info in them am i looking at a cd r problem or a operator problem? or a computer glitch? i did what has been drummed into me by the pf1 crew back up backup backup ...... and i did and its gone...... only just realising how much is gone..... $#^%#&^*&(**&)&^$ thing.... beetle	beetle (243)
182029	2003-10-11 10:05:00	How are you trying to look at the files that you "saved" onto your CD disks? If they are Works files you should be opening them with Works . Double clicking on the files *should* start Works running which should in turn open the files . What happens when you double click on the files? Nothing? Regarding the computer parts . If you think of a computer as a human body, the case would be the skin and the motherboard could be the skeleton . Onto that skeleton is plugged a brain (the CPU - Central Processing Unit) which bosses all the other bits around . Those Other bits plugged in to the motherboard (or skeleton) are the RAM (Random Access Memory) which is -surprise surprise - the memory (which disappears when the computer is turned off if not saved) and the Hard Drive which is the storage container for all your programs, data, operating system (eg Windows) etc . Then you can have a video card which processes the picture that you see on your monitor (screen) . Other bits and pieces can be added eg floppy drive, CD ROM or CD-RW writer, etc etc . A computer won't run without a motherboard or CPU and will probably spit the dummy if there is no RAM installed so your computer is pretty much useless without all those bits . That may help you understand a little more . E & O E of course .	Fire-and-Ice (3910)
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