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182590 2003-10-12 20:46:00 MS Access is poor related to MySQL, I have used both MS Access and MySQL for the web, and MS Access can't handle too many connections at once. It maybe different for MSSQL but I haven't used that yet. MS Access should not be used for high traffic websites.

You prefer the easy way out of life, and so you don't have to learn MySQL you take that option instead of learning more?

I guess the debate is VB vs C/C++ all over again, VB is 4th generation language, it's meant to be easier than the 3rd generation languages like C++, but easier doesn't mean better.

PHP doesn't rely on cookies it relies on Sessions with the server, and if failed then next option is cookies, but cookies are vulnerable to assorts of mischief.
Kame (312)
182591 2003-10-13 22:45:00 Can you get PHP going on IIS? mejobloggs (264)
182592 2003-10-13 22:50:00 > Can you get PHP going on IIS?

I ** think ** you can I have heard about it being done....
stu140103 (137)
182593 2003-10-13 23:36:00 Yes, I have it working on Win2000 and IIS 5 Dolby Digital (160)
182594 2003-10-13 23:38:00 > Can you get PHP going on IIS?

Last I heard you could. A friend of mine used to work for a company where he was developing PHP running on IIS.
segfault (655)
182595 2003-10-14 01:10:00 > Yes, I have it working on Win2000 and IIS 5

Hey cool! Can you tell me how you did it?

I have installed IIS, but I havn't tried it with anything else yet, apart from asp.

I have Windows XP.
mejobloggs (264)
182596 2003-10-14 01:48:00 This (www.phpbuilder.com) might help segfault (655)
182597 2003-10-14 02:15:00 You can download PHPHome2 off sourceforge.net which is the Windows Installer for Apache, PHP and MySQL all-in-one which makes setting it up easy.

You still have to do a bit, like copying the dlls to system32 directory and configuring the httpd.conf file and php.ini file which you have to do with apache and php anyway.
Kame (312)
182598 2003-10-14 03:11:00 I use ASP more often just because I know more of it than I do PHP (I'm currently working on solving this problem though.) I do use a little PHP, but not all that often.

If you want to learn ASP then make sure you have a darn good look at ASP.NET aswell.

I'd suggest learning PHP as PHP just keeps getting bigger and better with FAR MORE support than ASP. Not to mention that PHP hosting is usually cheaper, ideal for people wanting to host from their own servers.

In my opinion, if you want to get into web-programming follow these steps:

1. Learn HTML, CSS and other basic things that can make a 'static' page both operate nice and clean aswell as look damn good.

2. Learn JavaScript and enhance previous HTML pages with addons like random quote generators, scrolling news reports, form validation and manipulation, etc..

3. Learn PHP, SQL (which I believe an understanding of a similar but basic code such as JavaScript will help alot with PHP) use your new-found PHP skills to bring a dynamic aspect to your web pages, message-boards, blogs, polls, databased news/stories/links.. Everything. - Make sure you have a good understanding of MySQl aswell.

4. Go oldschool and learn the stuff that's pretty much now useless, perl, etc.. (this step is rather optional, I wouldn't do it)

But most importantly, have it ALL running off of your own machine sot hat you'll pick-up on the back-end aswell as all the 'coding' going on.. You'll soon be a guru and people wanting webpages designed will bow down before you at your mercy.. Or you'll atleast eb able to make yourself a decent webpage.
Rank32 (3732)
182599 2003-10-14 03:16:00 Perl is not useless, but with the way PHP carries on it may as well be. I've been converting a lot of Perl script to PHP and I'm hoping to finish converting Interchange Shopping Cart to PHP www.icdevgroup.com for more info. Kame (312)
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