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Thread ID: 38651	2003-10-14 05:31:00	OT: Goodbye Privy Council, Hello Republic	Winston001 (3612)	Press F1

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183091	2003-10-15 10:24:00	So that we can enter the 21st century.	Thomas (1820)
183092	2003-10-15 16:24:00	Why don't we have a Pom as captain of the all blacks? It's about as sensible as having them ruleing our legal system.	JJJJJ (528)
183093	2003-10-15 17:18:00	>It's about as sensible as having them ruleing our legal system. I think there is a difference between ruling and adjudicating a point of law,I could be wrong.	Thomas (1820)
183094	2003-10-15 21:13:00	> Presumably Win Peters was against loosing PC. Oh, that Winston. No relation of mine and I fervently reject any association therewith. As to the nuclear issue ; this got blown far out of proportion by the 4th Labour Government. Originally they wanted to ban nuclear weapons from our shores (and ports) but the floundering Left members (losing in the face of Rogernomics) managed a victory by banning anything nuclear from NZ. Actually hospitals and laboratories were sort of exempt. Anyway this suddenly meant that nuclear powered vessels were banned as indeed was any nuclear technology. Head in the sand stuff but we have been stuck with it. As a result young Kiwis have a superstitious fear of science (assisted by the shallow GE debate) which is one of the many reasons NZ innovation has become stifled. Oh, the Poms have just annonced the Privy Council will be merged with the House of Lords. Not a big deal.	Winston001 (3612)
183095	2003-10-15 21:38:00	JJJJ nice theory, but all our law is based on English law. The big essental with the PC is it's very independance from political pressure. As for the $$$ spent , it will still happen, but with the added cost of a Supreme Court and all it's employees for it's infastructure. High chance that we as a nation will be paying much more than with PC. I'm sure everyone is happy to pay more tax, so that we can have a NZ court, ra ra ra So for your money, you get :- Pay more Court open to political pressure Political appointed judges No ultimate independant authority In fact, would be a good idea that we utilise an Australian Supreme Court. NZ, IMHO, is turning into a Banana Republic , which won't even be able to afford the Banana :D	Pheonix (280)
183096	2003-10-16 10:10:00	Well really, you have to acknowledge that when European settlers came to New Zealand (I'm talking largely British, here), they brought much of the British system with them, but left behind the worse parts of it. Now, with the scene of political parties at the moment - you can vote for people who make drug-induced comments, people who do not have the full backing of their party, people who do not hide their racism, and people who think the Parliamentary Prayer should be revised (I would prefer abolished...). I'm not saying that's all you can vote for, but it is a fairly brief overview. True, Helen Clark has made promises that she has not kept, but reality has it that any political party that gets in power will have a varying amount of promises they have to delay, forget about, or break. The nature of government and funding means that it is often hard to do things. However, don't get me wrong, there is far too much apparent corruption (and I say apparent, because really, who am I to judge the state of New Zealand's political scene, let alone claim things about people I don't know), and not enough input from the general public. Moving to a republic will not help solve matters, although I personally hold the view that we should dump the tie, because it doesn't offer us much benefit (unless you count the Commonwealth Games as interesting?). It would appear that a true communist approach would help a lot, but really, communism these days isn't what it was dreamed to be by Mr Marx, although he did predict it would have to go through the stage it's at now before becoming the true form of communism. I'm not old enough to vote by far, but if I could, so far, my choice would be for Labour - I don't see any other parties fit to run the government. However, it would appear that Labour has changed the nature of their roots. Does this mean there is no single candidate worth voting for? Probably, but once again, I can't make decent or accurate judgements on our political scene. It has been said for a long long time, but New Zealand really should adopt the style of government used in Scandinavian countries. You might note that countries like Sweden and Denmark do very well. Perhaps if New Zealand's legal and political system moved to mimic those of Sweden and Denmark, we would be better off. But in the light of all the changes that would be made, there would be much uproar from people (for example, the complete banishment of a drinking age), and it would be many generations before people began to see the good sides of any changes made. In comparison, Australia might be a better place to live, what with all the changes going on in New Zealand, but the situation there isn't that much better (and neither is the broadband situation ;)). I recognise that there are people who belive many of the things the current government have done are absolutely rubbish, but take a look at the other sides of things. Yes, you can argue that New Zealand does have enemies we need to be protected against, but the dumped airforce planes were really just a waste of tax payers money - which, albeit, we pay enough of. And in retrospective, have the majority of the nation missed the odd jet flying over doing scouting? Somehow I doubt so. New Zealand isn't the big super power nation with many enemies we need to fend off, and nothing noticeable has happened to us since the jets were scrapped. Maybe prostitution was legalised, but for some people, it is the only job they can do. Save me the moral talk, because I know about morals. But I also know that some people turn to prostitution because they are depressed, some because they aren't skilled enough to do any better (yes, it could be their fault they dropped out of education, but obviously it would then have been their decision), whereas others simply because they like it and the pay. I also recognise that prostitution is against some peoples religious beliefs, but it has been said that prostitution is the oldest profession (arguable, for sure, but it is older than Christianity), and something that's been going on for that long isn't going to stop just because some people have moral objections to it. No, maybe the legalisation of prostitution hasn't made it any safer (and really, how would you make an accurate measure of the safety when some people operate out of their own home, relying on word-of-mouth), but prostitutes are humans, and it has made it safer for some. Now, moving on, can anyone reccommend political studies to do as a degree?	agent (30)
183097	2003-10-16 12:03:00	> Now, moving on, can anyone recommend political > studies to do as a degree? Yes, but only if you want to end up working for/with the people you just slagged off in your email! :D Are you serious about it? If so I'd recommend Politics and Economics together ... then you might be able to get a high paying job in banking! Otherwise being a politician, journo or PR flak are probably the most likely. ANd if you are serious then I understand the PolSci department at Akl is reasonably good ... had a good tie-in with Media Studies too at one point .. not sure if it still does. Personally my favourite was Philosophy .. but then that ended up (with English) being my major, so I guess that goes without saying! And here I am working in IT, so what does that tell you! ;-)	marke (457)
183098	2003-10-16 12:17:00	thats what political peope do.slag others off...sometimes lol.. so guess he's starting his job already ;)	csinclair83 (200)
183099	2003-10-16 20:05:00	I say this without malice,I think labour is going to get typical supporter,a lot to say and no substance.(re Agent)	Thomas (1820)
183100	2003-10-16 22:01:00	No substance, huh? Besides: a) I'm not old enough to vote b) I stated clearly that in my opinion, there is no political party fit to run our government, but up until recently, I would have voted for Labour, because everyone else was bad enough	agent (30)
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