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Thread ID: 38659 2003-10-14 08:20:00 The future of secure computing mikebartnz (21) Press F1
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183171 2003-10-15 03:26:00 And the Trusted ones will exchange Word files with builtin virus macros.

I'm not prepared to buy any software and have the manufacturer installing "upgrades/patches", unless he is prepared to guarantee that his software works. I'm not prepared to have him changing my setup even then.

Microsoft explicitly say that none of their software works; nothing said in any of their advertisements is true; and they are not responsible for any damage the software does. Trust?:| :D
Graham L (2)
183172 2003-10-15 05:50:00 Ditto for the hardware GL. Just installed a new MS Intelli Point mouse (sorry people it was a good price) and had a good read of the EULA. I haven't registered it (not required) but within minutes the critter was trying to call home or where ever without a by your leave, this Trusted thing is obviously only a one way street, I trust it to do what it likes. Rather rude I thought so, I've set up a firewall rule with an alert to monitor it's behind the scenes activity. BTW the url it called is invalid? will have to use a tracer I guess.

The mouse is a huge improvement on my old balled one. I gather its all in how they neuter e'm ;)

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
183173 2003-10-15 20:53:00 > this Trusted thing is obviously only
> a one way street, I trust it to do what it likes.
LMAO!

That's brightened my day!
Sad, but true...
Chilling_Silently (228)
183174 2003-10-16 00:16:00 >>Ive started using .rtf for a lot of Documents.
Actually I've been thinking about my previous post and I suspect if your pc has the "trusted computing" bits, only those documents, programs, images will open if they have the seal of approval. Its the slippery slidey slope to domination by a few companies. Of course, they will say its in our best interests. Actually GL touched on it, imagine a virus with a "trusted computing" stamp :p
Dolby Digital (160)
183175 2003-10-16 00:25:00 Lets hope someone makes a really, really, nasty one then. Not that I support the srcote's that propagate viruses, etc, but it might be the only way to knock this thing on the head hard enough to put it away. If the US Fed commission for whatever it is, that investigates monopolies and fair trading gets a decent dose all the better.

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
183176 2003-10-16 00:39:00 OK all you experts. What the heck does TC stand for ????
heaton
heaton (3697)
183177 2003-10-16 00:57:00 Its MS's great idea fore secure computing except, you really need to ignore the security aspects of the proposal (fait-accomplie) from your perspective and look at the licensing and captive consumer side and see what that means for you. Have a look at this article (newsforge.com) and for balance CHOKE! here is a example of MS's (www.microsoft.com) thinking.

Happy reading.

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
183178 2003-10-16 01:37:00 Goodness Gracious 1984 is here.
heaton
heaton (3697)
183179 2003-10-18 19:59:00 Interesting post.
Does this mean what I think it means??
It would be like buying a new car, lets say a Mazda for example and being told that it will only run on Mazda petrol. The problem being that Mazda petrol costs $10.00 per liter and is only avaible from the dealer you purchased the car from.
I think I will vote with my wallet and boycott this so called new and improved technology.
rmcb (164)
183180 2003-10-18 20:44:00 Ah, but you can trust (Trusted Motoring - you might be on to something here :D) the Mazda petrol; it has been beta tested by thousands of Mazda owners and is safe from nasties that might lurk in petrol. And the next thing is a little chip in your car which only allows you to run on Madza petrol :p

Be careful, Microsoft might decide that petrol (and whatever replaces it) is the next big thing.
Dolby Digital (160)
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