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Thread ID: 38677 2003-10-14 23:42:00 OT: Lets Have Internet Referenda Winston001 (3612) Press F1
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183424 2003-10-14 23:42:00 I have wondered for a while why our e-Govt doesn't move to asking our opinion on issues.

It would be a simple matter for voters to say yes on no to questions, say weekly, placed on a Govt website.

Encryption and one vote per person.

Weekly referenda for the people. Simple.

Only those who cared would vote but Parliament would at least get a sample of the public view.

Whaddyoureckon?
Winston001 (3612)
183425 2003-10-14 23:51:00 I'm just thinking of the ways they can make the information accurate, and that it is reliable information they are receiving. Which probably requires personal information to minimise voting more than once, when I guess most people would prefer to be anonymous. This would probably be the only way you could get one vote per person, but depending on the personal information received, how do they know it's a different person?

I'm one of those that don't care. Govt doesn't seem to get better.
Kame (312)
183426 2003-10-15 00:57:00 if your talking about voting online....i think they gonna trial it next election in 1 or 2 electorates...i have to say its a rumour, as i havent heard anything definate...


but a way of minimising the votes is giving everyone a personal number, and when they vote, that number is locked meaning that it can be only used once...

say my number was 12345
and i went online and entered that number, you get 5-10 mins to make ur selections then the page automatically refreshes and the number is unable to be entered again, and even calling the election office wont change it...once its locked its locked..

that would work but would need heavy website work and security i guess...
csinclair83 (200)
183427 2003-10-15 01:27:00 Bloody good idea and the individual numbers are already in place. I used to be an electoral officer and I know that each individual elector has had their own Role Identifier number for 20 years now. All that would be required is for electors interested in being part of an ongoing sample group to register that interest. Tie up their Role Identifier with their e-mail address and you're away.
To work fairly, the people would need to register in advance of the questions being asked so you don''t get just the interest groups registering to answer a particular question. I'd image, get x thousand people registered by a particular date then they would be your sample for all sorts of questions for the following three months or whatever. E-mail them the questions with a link to a webpage that has a simple 'tick the box' type survey format set up with appropriate answers. If someone doesn't respond to say three in a row, delete them.
You couldn't make this form of referandum binding, but it would provide a very good indication of public feeling. And shouldn't the politicians act on how we, the electors, feel? (Perhaps drop the name 'referendum' as I think the term scares the Beehive boys a bit. Call it an 'Elector Opinion Survey' and you might get somewhere'
oggy (1250)
183428 2003-10-15 01:41:00 Maybe it's time to discard the "obsolete" Westminster style of confrontational government (and confrontational judicial system for that matter), and adopt a constitution based on that of Switzerlands' referenda system. Terry Porritt (14)
183429 2003-10-15 02:28:00 Misgivings (not necessarily mine, but the things people in general will moan about):

Standover tactics: spouse/ parent/ leader of group says "you're [all] going to vote this way or else, and I'm going to watch you do it." (that's what those wooden boxes in polling stations are for).

"Digital divide" arguments; "why do these computer geeks get to sit in the comfort of their own homes and vote (or even key in a lengthy submission) when I have to type it up, photocopy it 40 times and/or drag down to the polling station/ Parliament to have my say. The vote is biased toward the technocrats and it ain't fair."

Argus
argus (366)
183430 2003-10-15 02:44:00 ur right there..
peer pressure...
and i thought they were cardboard polling station things...

maybe it can still be done but at the polling station instead of home...

or add a terms of conditions...and one of the conditions is person must be alone, or not be doing it under peer pressure etc...
and if they been done under peer pressure they get 1 hr or so to call the election services or something
csinclair83 (200)
183431 2003-10-15 02:53:00 The problem is,how much respect does one have for the average voter,they voted this lot in,
I think it is true that the more complicated the question, the less people will know the answer,would we end up with being ruled by the mob.
Thomas (1820)
183432 2003-10-15 03:27:00 Great point of view, Oggy Greg S (201)
183433 2003-10-15 03:31:00 "Digital divide" arguments; "why do these computer geeks get to sit in the comfort of their own homes and vote (or even key in a lengthy submission) when I have to type it up, photocopy it 40 times and/or drag down to the polling station/ Parliament to have my say. The vote is biased toward the technocrats and it ain't fair." (posted by argus)

I agree with this argument.

Also questions arise about the anominity of voting this way, as surley this could be tracked.
promethius (1998)
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