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Thread ID: 38729 2003-10-16 19:46:00 ADSL Router Recommendations? Chilling_Silently (228) Press F1
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183979 2003-10-17 01:32:00 Technically you're better off having ports shown as closed than in stealth... I mentioned this issue in another thread a while back; if all your ports show as stealth, it's a like a blackhole to a hacker, because something goes in and nothing goes out, and it's just as obvious there is a computer/service there as it is if the port was open. Whereas with ports closed, a little packet will be sent back telling them that a computer/service on that port doesn't exist.

However, the likelihood that you'd get targetted specifically by hackers is relatively low... although I admit that I occaisonally get people trying to connect to port 25 (avast! scanner service, but considering I've set it to only allow connections locally, I should be safe allowing those people their attempts), sometimes I find connection attempts to random ports, and I've also found people try connecting to my IP on ports 80 and 443, though it's not as if I have much internet content they can even figure out how to get to.

That said, I'd also set everything up so it can only be connected to locally, or else you might end up with spammers relaying emails and crap like that (happened to a friend of mine... if you take TelstraClear's estimation of 1MB = 200 emails, then they sent 4000 emails in a day through his server, and this was running on dialup, too!)
agent (30)
183980 2003-10-17 01:34:00 > Does it matter if a portscan shows up as closed or
> stealth?

As far as I know, both are good :)

But just make sure, the closed one does not open :D

But if you want to run a server of some type, I think the http (80) / https (443) / ftp (21)/ POP3(25)/ SMTP(110) ( if you want to run a mail server) then those ports need to be open I think so the data can get to throw these ports
stu140103 (137)
183981 2003-10-17 01:41:00 The likelihood of needing to run an SSL-enabled web server isn't very high for most people, remember, neither is a plain web server, and mail servers are only needed if you plan on setting up internal emails (never quite figured that out myself), or running relay services.

If you want to run a DNS server, DNS goes through port 53 to my knowledge, but you shouldn't have to open that on the router, unless you want to act as a DNS server for all us PF1ers? :D
agent (30)
183982 2003-10-17 01:46:00 > If you want to run a DNS server, DNS goes through
> port 53 to my knowledge,

I found out something new today :)

> but you shouldn't have to open that on the router, unless you want to act as a DNS server for all us PF1ers? :D

hehehe :D, then we would not need to worry about the ISP’s DNS server :p :D
stu140103 (137)
183983 2003-10-17 01:51:00 Might as well expand on the DNS thing:

UDP protocol, port 53.
agent (30)
183984 2003-10-17 02:34:00 Hmm.. Sounds cool.. I'm thinking of doing DNS in the future, but likely will stick to http, ftp, and proxy ATM :-) Chilling_Silently (228)
183985 2003-10-17 03:00:00 Oh, and yes, you heard correctly - save $99 on your Xtra JetStream connection if you "hook up" before November 16 for six months or more... I suppose though, if you're with another ISP, you might still have to pay $99. agent (30)
183986 2003-10-17 03:10:00 Telecom often has deals where the $99 connection only fee is waived, which applies to any ISP you choose as your provider.

The fact they are this time only limiting it to Xtra plus the minimum 6 month connection contract, suggests they are trying to push all new business in that direction. Being that telecom and Xtra are so tightly intertwined and all ....
Jen C (20)
183987 2003-10-17 03:15:00 Oops - I really should check my facts before making such statements before hitting that "Post Message" button :8}. Just paid a quick visit to my non-Xtra ISP provider and they also offer the $99 fee waiver.

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Pay no JetStream Connection fee - Save $99
Join up to JetStream for a minimum period of 6 months and you get a FREE JetStream connection. Offer ends 15 November 2003. A $50 charge applies for early termination.
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Just seems that Telecom only mention the Xtra ISP provider for that discount on their site.
Jen C (20)
183988 2003-10-17 03:16:00 Well of course, because Telecom and Xtra would love to have the largest customer base... :D

Of course, you'll probably find that the reason why Xtra is voted ISP of the year is because everyone upset with them forgets about their issues, can't be bothered voicing their complaints, and because there aren't enough Xtra customers who don't vote for Xtra because of issues.
agent (30)
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