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185674	2003-10-22 08:16:00	I don't know about you guys, but doesnt it disgust you when you see online vendors create review site that review products they sell. I think it is pathetic! Very low when vendors like this do marketing tactics to sell products. Probably low sales but still this no good way. I talk about pcgear.co.nz that created reviewnz.com so that do dirty work for them by review of products they sell. Go here, forums.overclockers.co.nz to see domain registrar for both sites and picture of product reviewed by review site. Review site is ran by pcgear forum administrtors and moderators. How can trust dishonest vendor?	Jonbon (4764)
185675	2003-10-22 09:37:00	I don't see how somebody who sells stuff and also writes reviews on the stuff can be classed as dishonest? To me that shows that the guy has some experience with the stuff he sells, rather than just selling stuff cause he can. If he writes reviews, then I'm guessing he's used the stuff enough to be able to. You can usually tell if a reviewer hasn't used something much. No, it doesn't disgust me. And although I don't trust dishonest vendors (does anybody once you know they're dishonest? :p), I don't think that running both an online store and a review site makes you dishonest. Mike.	Mike (15)
185676	2003-10-22 09:45:00	Personally i think they should have "this site is run in conjunction with pcgear.co.nz" written across the top of their hardware site. Not that I’ve been to either site in a long time so i don't know what exactly is on either. After my first visit to Overclockers it was obvious to me they were one and the same, can’t say it bothered me. But then i can't say i look upon the site as a legitimate resource after noticing this either, which may or may not be a fair judgement on the site.	metla (154)
185677	2003-10-22 11:51:00	If you were buyer and you review, its okay. But when seller do review of own product, that's unethical. Reason its nono for vendor to do review product he sells is because it will always be biased and who knows if they've got heaps of stock of that product, they do good review and to sell stock. Seller can review products he don't sell, okay, but not other way around. Example, I sell car to you and I tell you its great and no problem, you believe me? Of course not. Good thing with product like cars you can test drive. Other products like PC hardware you can't. You need to purchase first. You can return only if faulty. You cannot say you return because it doesn't perform like review. They come back to you and say, each hardware is different. The you lose?	Jonbon (4764)
185678	2003-10-22 19:45:00	Sure may be it could OK but in this situation it most certainly is not. I've followed some of PC Gears actions for quite a while now, to the point where myself and others that I know will NOT purchase products which somehow have come through them. There was a while back with the Chaintech Apogee motherboard, a reviewer did an honest review of it. Mentioning that it was a stable motherboard but no good for overclocking. He got told that he was a bad reviewer purely because he wrote an honest review instead of writing it up a lot better in the hope of getting more products to review. A review is there to inform people and be non-biased, this is not what they were wanting. The reason for PC Gear having their own review site, most likely because no one else was willing to write reviews up to their *standard*.	-=JM=- (16)
185679	2003-10-22 20:42:00	um yeah you say that about pcgear, but overclockers is exactly the same thing ???	Budda (2736)
185680	2003-10-22 23:31:00	Whilst I can see the benefits of reading reviews by completely independent and authoritive figures such as the gnomes of PC World, I have to concede that the other stuff has it's place. To be honest, people that tell lies in reviews get found out one way or another, just as people with cons and crock auctions online. Bear in mind there are lots of publications that print advertorial that is pseudo independent but basically what the advertiser wants said. They have their place in the world (they are just supposed to say in small writing when something is a paid advertisement). I would be happy to read a review of a game (for example) from someone like PC Gamer or another retailer. If I then bought the game on the strength of that and it sucked, then I would take it back and make noises about consumer guarantees. You do come to trust the credible and distrust those you don't know or know and don't believe. robo.	robo (205)
185681	2003-10-23 00:11:00	> To be honest, people that tell lies in reviews get > found out one way or another, just as people with > cons and crock auctions online. True, but it becomes an expensive mistake the first time it happens and no redress is available. > I would be happy to read a review of a game (for > example) from someone like PC Gamer or another > retailer. If I then bought the game on the strength > of that and it sucked, then I would take it back and > make noises about consumer guarantees. Not everyone has the confidence to stand up for their rights. A lot of people just take it as a bitter pill to swallow. > You do come to trust the credible and distrust those > you don't know or know and don't believe. Only trouble is that it hurts the pocket/wallet whilst learning.	Fire-and-Ice (3910)
185682	2003-10-23 00:29:00	Hell the biggest PC OS vendor commisions studies to convince the GP its product are better and enhance productivity (a much over use term IMHO). Why can't other vendors in the technology industry do it?	mark.p (383)
185683	2003-10-23 00:30:00	Personally i cant see it being worse then the rot spewed out by salesmen in the big shops,ask about any printer in Dick Smith and you will be told its great value for money,perfect for whatever you intend to use it for,great saver of ink etc etc,no matter what one your looking at it will be the best,no doubt about it,apart from the more expensive one next to it they will try and con you into. In the real world some of these printers are dogs,but they will never tell you that.Just like HP won't admit buying products in bulk that have been ordered off the American market due to failing to meet the required standards and then re-packaging them into the systems they sell here in NZ and Australia. Just like Noel Leemings(or big byte or computer city...all one and the same company) selling their computers as Multimedia solutions.....Heck,i have been asked not to return to our local Noel leemings because i interupted one of there sales,The customer in question had told the salesman they wanted a computer for the whole family,that could do all the things a family would need,i listened to his mouthrot come from the saletheif about how the system was a Multimedia Soulution,very powerful,all the latest bells and whistles and perfect for the family. I butted in at this point and told him if it was a multimedia solution and so powerful how about he load up a game and show it running. Now this upset the salesman as expected,also upset the customer for some reason,They went thru with the sale(we're talking near 5 grand for a duron 1200 with an intergrated video card here,i couldn't keep my silence).......... Guess it didnt take them long after they got her home to find out what they had bought.	metla (154)
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