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Thread ID: 38952 2003-10-23 01:21:00 Recording TV with Tuner Card Odin (227) Press F1
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185836 2003-10-23 01:21:00 Ok here goes. My TV is dying and I can't afford to buy a new one so i bought a TV tuner card instead. I have the Leadtek 2000 XP Deluxe. Now I have it working fine mostly.

Now here is what I need if some nice person can help me. :-) I want to know what Codec will provide the best compression (don't have much HD space 10 gig is all) while providing good quality. I have Mpeg 4 V1,2 and 3. Xvid, Divx 5.05 Divx4 Low and fast motion and a few other I've not used before. I am using the Mpeg Layer III audio codec. Now I want to be able to record TV programs while I go out (tried recording Fair go last night, while the file size for the hour was only 216 megs the quality was rubbish aand I also chose the setting record silently and while it record the sound the damn thing recorded it Muted so I couldn't hear any sound even though it was there. :-( )

Now I would appreciate it if someone could tell me what codec and what setting I need to get the quality I need. eg frame rate, screen sized 1st pass, bit rate etc ( I know virtually nothing about video encoding so exact details would be very much appreciated)

Can anyone help thanks.
Odin (227)
185837 2003-10-23 02:02:00 i hate to say this but the better quality the more hdd space you would need...


and are you using windows xp? as the OS would help...
am looking online for information that might help :-)
csinclair83 (200)
185838 2003-10-23 02:47:00 You'd want to try encoding it at, say, 320x240 resolution instead of the PAL standard....

What software are you using to capture.. Im interested in doing the same myself with a PixelView PlayTV/Pro card... :-)
Chilling_Silently (228)
185839 2003-10-23 02:57:00 I would presume he is using tha winfast pvr software,its pretty good,but only works with leadtek cards as far as i know.I certainly couldn't get it to recorgnise a pixelview card when i tied. metla (154)
185840 2003-10-23 03:40:00 Bugger... :-(

I think its time to hit google and find some good free stuff :-)
Chilling_Silently (228)
185841 2003-10-23 03:49:00 before you hit google,try www.vcdhelp.com.

They have a listing with links to dozens of them,probally with user ratings as well.I tried a few of em back a while ago,plety of good stuff.

BTW,did u get the email i sent?
metla (154)
185842 2003-10-23 03:54:00 Sorry, Yes I'm using the Leadtek PVR but it makes use of any codec you have installed. I don't mind the files being somehwhat large, but within reason of course. I have seen some amazingly good quality videos that were only 7 megs in size, One being Queens of the Stoneage video No on knows which was brillianlty clear and smooth it was 8 megs in size and was .asf format.

My OS is WinXP with sp1 and all patches since. I got AMD 2100 XP cpu and 1 gig of PC 2700 Ram, Leadteck Geforce 4 Ti4400 Graphics card and Soundblaster Audigy2 soundcard and of course the Leadtek 2000XP deluxe tuner card. M/b is Asus A7V8X
Odin (227)
185843 2003-10-23 03:58:00 Yes.. the PVR is an excellent prog to use :) try vcd or svcd format during recording. Should be enough for TV viewing and it's pretty small. Approx. 680MB per hour.

It's better than using VCR especially if u're away for a few days as the most u can get from VCR tapes is about 8 hours with LP.

Oh .. the latest PVR supports Direct Burn as well, so if u've a DVD writer it will write on the DVD on the spot :D
SKT174 (1319)
185844 2003-10-23 04:13:00 I'm assuming your program can encode to a format on the fly? I would encode with DivX5.1 (latest version). XviD is very good as well, but you would have to read up quite a few expert guides to get excellent quality. Anyway DivX and Xvid rip SVCD to shreds in terms of quality. You can always convert to SVCD later if you wanted with another guide.

If you are wondering what bitrate is good for DivX, anything over 1000kbps is pretty good. Get DVTool (www.musclesoft.de) and enter in the length of the program, quality of audio, and how big the maximum size of the output file should be and it should tell you the correct bitrate to encode at. 700mb per hour is v.v.good quality.

Can your capture program be told not to record ads? If the program gets recorded with ads, and you used divx, then you can edit them out with VirtualDub.
PoWa (203)
185845 2003-10-23 06:44:00 I so far have only come across one program that automaticly paused while the adds were screened,Don't think i had much luck getting it set up properly. metla (154)
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