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Thread ID: 129072	2013-01-31 00:43:00	Police hiring, was part of Police Commissioner post	prefect (6291)	PC World Chat

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1325936	2013-01-31 19:31:00	The point here is the Police are reflecting the Governments Separatist policies. The police should be selected on merit not Race. Next thing they’ll be required to select on religious beliefs. So many Catholics, so many Protestants, so many Muslims, so many…….. Actually, there was a time in NZ when most of the Police Force were Catholics and most of the Judges Masons. There is little point in racially selecting law enforcement staff unless you are going to have a different law for different cultures, something some Maoris have wanted for years. All in all I guess it’s just more PC bollocks. The point is you're wrong, and I've given ample evidence to demonstrate it. All we have as counter evidence is that three people - two white males and one Samoan female, had their intake delayed despite being excellent candidates, which - surprise - suggests that the police have lots of qualified candidates, but that if you meet the criteria, you get in. It just might take a year or two. Nothing to do with PC, or the government. :) Have a nice day. PS: Inphinity: lol.	Zara Baxter (16260)
1325937	2013-01-31 21:17:00	With my admin hat on: This thread portion has been moved to reflect the wishes of WalOne.	Zara Baxter (16260)
1325938	2013-01-31 21:33:00	Been involved against my wishes in racial discrimination and it still makes me bitter I caved in years ago. I was a engineering instructor (reciprocating engines) at an airplane school for a number of years. We were given 2 new students from a Pacific Island nation to kick start their airforce consisting of a donated Expeditor. One was failing and he so totally bombed out on my part of the course theory and practical. Did he get the chop? nope I was ordered to find more marks in his exam and retest his practical skills until he passed. We do this stuff in NZ.	prefect (6291)
1325939	2013-01-31 23:05:00	The point is you're wrong, and I've given ample evidence to demonstrate it. All we have as counter evidence is that three people - two white males and one Samoan female, had their intake delayed despite being excellent candidates, which - surprise - suggests that the police have lots of qualified candidates, but that if you meet the criteria, you get in. It just might take a year or two. Nothing to do with PC, or the government. :) Have a nice day. PS: Inphinity: lol. Zara, in your endless quest for political correctness you completely miss the point. The Police Commissioner said “We're committed to making the profile of Police better reflect the profile of the population.” Now tell me, what has the profile of the population got to do with being a good Policeman. :rolleyes: Imagine if say Air New Zealand said the Colour, Class and Creed of their Pilots must reflect the profile of the NZ population or the profile of a cross section of their passengers. There would be an awful lot of their planes on the ground wouldn't there. Finally Zara, as you are obviously a sworn advocate of Political Correctness, I find it surprising you support profiling at all. :confused:	B.M. (505)
1325940	2013-01-31 23:20:00	Zara, in your endless quest for political correctness you completely miss the point. The Police Commissioner said “We're committed to making the profile of Police better reflect the profile of the population.” Now tell me, what has the profile of the population got to do with being a good Policeman. :rolleyes: Imagine if say Air New Zealand said the Colour, Class and Creed of their Pilots must reflect the profile of the NZ population or the profile of a cross section of their passengers. There would be an awful lot of their planes on the ground wouldn't there. Finally Zara, as you are obviously a sworn advocate of Political Correctness, I find it surprising you support profiling at all. :confused: I have no idea why you brought political correctness into this? I'm a sworn advocate of FACTUAL correctness. At no point have I ever said that the creed, colour or class of policemen should be brought into their hiring. but my opinion isn't even relevant, and I haven't at any stage, brought it into the discussion. The important point is that the police force states outright that they do not take creed, colour or class into consideration when hiring. The quote you point out has nothing to do with hiring practices, as I've pointed out several times in the thread. I suggest you go back and read it.	Zara Baxter (16260)
1325941	2013-01-31 23:48:00	[QUOTE=B.M.;1144541 Imagine if say Air New Zealand said the Colour, Class and Creed of their Pilots must reflect the profile of the NZ population or the profile of a cross section of their passengers. There would be an awful lot of their planes on the ground wouldn't there.[/QUOTE] Dead right there practically all Air New Zealand and Jet* pilots are White males, the pax a mixture of races. If they did "removing barriers" on pilot selection there would be a lot of grounded planes.	prefect (6291)
1325942	2013-02-01 00:38:00	The important point is that the police force states outright that they do not take creed, colour or class into consideration when hiring. The quote you point out has nothing to do with hiring practices, as I've pointed out several times in the thread. I suggest you go back and read it.lol, of course they wouldnt would they, then the media wagon would be calling them out on it. But it is happening because they have been told to. Its no different than women in the work place, some Govt depts. and assoc. corporations have been told they have to have X amount of women in their business to look more gender friendly (and pc). And women have been chosen over men because they had to - even if the men were better suited to the job. Of course the employer isnt going to put that in writing, but its easy to say "you're not suitable" after the application. And if you think this sort of thing isnt happening isnt happening in business and Govt, I suggest you get your head out of the sand. An "Equal Opportunity Employer" looks good, but they are just words in most instances.	Iantech (16386)
1325943	2013-02-01 01:01:00	The important point is that the police force states outright that they do not take creed, colour or class into consideration when hiring. Well maybe you would care to explain how they are going to make the profile of the Police “better reflect the profile of the population” without taking into account Race. :confused:	B.M. (505)
1325944	2013-02-01 01:04:00	Well maybe you would care to explain how they are going to make the profile of the Police “better reflect the profile of the population” without taking into account Race. :confused: Explain again, you mean? Seriously, I'm boring myself explaining over and over. Have fun with your little circlejerk in here.	Zara Baxter (16260)
1325945	2013-02-01 01:19:00	Explain again, you mean? Seriously, I'm boring myself explaining over and over. Have fun with your little circlejerk in here. Well maybe you would be good enough to point me to your explanation. :)	B.M. (505)
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