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Thread ID: 129072	2013-01-31 00:43:00	Police hiring, was part of Police Commissioner post	prefect (6291)	PC World Chat

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1325916	2013-01-31 02:23:00	FYI: current ethnic profile of the police force is on page 15 www.police.govt.nz You'll see that given the current ratios, having 18 new students of Asian, Maori and Pacific backgrounds would indeed help more closely fit the profile of NZ's demographics going forward.	Zara Baxter (16260)
1325917	2013-01-31 02:23:00	And you have some evidence that the police force do not take the best? Don't tell me you're assuming that police officers who are non-european are not qualified? It can't be that they are selected by quota - because they aren't, so I'm not sure what you are saying. I didnt mention qualified I said take the people with the best test results	prefect (6291)
1325918	2013-01-31 02:29:00	I didnt mention qualified I said take the people with the best test results So, what, you think the police force should give their tests, do their interviews, but rather than take 40, and pass any who complete the course successfully (I don't know how many of a year's intake pass), they should take 150 and pass only the best of those who complete the course? The "regardless of race" you added to your post discussing the pilots testing vs the police suggests that you seem to think race is involved in the selection process. It isn't. Which was the point of my last post.	Zara Baxter (16260)
1325919	2013-01-31 02:37:00	And after said fitness and psych tests they take the best? Because said Maori, PI or Asian persons did better than the other applicants they were selected? I don't see what your point is either, Prefect.	lordnoddy (3645)
1325920	2013-01-31 02:48:00	If the feldies are taking the people with the top test results only I am Ho Chi Minh.	prefect (6291)
1325921	2013-01-31 02:56:00	If the feldies are taking the people with the top test results only I am Ho Chi Minh. Could you perhaps state exactly what you think is happening? I can guess, but I'd love to hear you state it outright so that I can thoroughly debunk it. :)	Zara Baxter (16260)
1325922	2013-01-31 03:01:00	FWIW, police force recruiting isn't, and shouldn't be, merely about "test results": Police also need psychiatric evaluation and a fair degree of empathy and ability to work with people because they interact with the public constantly. But they take the best of those who meet the criteria, which are clearly delineated and, once more, with feeling, are not affected by the cultural, ethnic or religious background of the applicant. Anyone who may wonder why the make-up of this class seems higher in diversity than the police force as a whole. I recommend you have a closer look at the document I posted before, which included the ethnicity. It describes the ways in which the police have evaluated the barriers to entry that might prevent applicants from diverse backgrounds, and attempted to address them.	Zara Baxter (16260)
1325923	2013-01-31 03:13:00	It describes the ways in which the police have evaluated the barriers to entry that might prevent applicants from diverse backgrounds, and attempted to address them. PC 101 at its finest. Translation: They didnt take the best from who applied.	prefect (6291)
1325924	2013-01-31 03:33:00	So you're admitting you have no evidence that they don't take the best? Let me spell this out carefully. They addressed barriers to entry for _applicants_. That is: a) They take the best from the applicants they get. b) They tried to encourage a broader pool applicants. If you want to get the best in NZ, you try to make your applicant pool as broad as possible. They recognised that it wasn't broad enough - they didn't feel they were getting the best chance at selecting the best applicants. So they fixed it. There's no PC conspiracy here. It's common sense to have the largest pool you can draw from, as you note with your air force example. I notice that you have at no point stated what you actually think is happening.	Zara Baxter (16260)
1325925	2013-01-31 04:17:00	PC 101 at its finest. Translation: They didnt take the best from who applied.hmmm, you seem to think police only deal with criminals, and if their did I probably would agree. Fact, police deal with a whole lot more then criminals. I have had dealings with them for them for crime and in tradgedy. I am glad their may have to be PC sometimes.	plod (107)
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