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Thread ID: 129008	2013-01-28 23:00:00	Reverse Racism	Roscoe (6288)	PC World Chat

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1325432	2013-01-29 00:12:00	Roscoe: I'm confused - did she say it was Maori land, or land belonging to the householder? My understanding (albeit limited) was that it would be one or the other, and that Maori land still allowed public access.	Zara Baxter (16260)
1325433	2013-01-29 00:22:00	Dugimodo: The area that we were stopped at was in Kaora St right at the end close to a very long concrete boat ramp and not far from the carpark. It was a very small strip of land about 6 metres wide and just enough room to park a car facing the water. I'm certain no one could have thought that we were setting up for the night. There were about three or four houses across the road. There were no signs saying no parking or no camping. There was no hint that it may have been private or maori land. There were no notices saying that you may not park. In fact there was the other motorhome (occupied by a maori family) plus about six more cars angle parked. We were the only people approached. We are certain that our skin was the wrong colour. Not nice. I used the term "reverse racism" because the PC brigade believe that racism only goes one way - from whites to browns, not the other way around. In other words, they believe that only whites are capable of racism. We know differently.	Roscoe (6288)
1325434	2013-01-29 00:27:00	Roscoe: I'm confused - did she say it was Maori land, or land belonging to the householder? My understanding (albeit limited) was that it would be one or the other, and that Maori land still allowed public access. Zara: She said it was maori land and belonged to the people who lived in the house across the road. I wondered why the owners of the land did not have the guts to come and speak to us themselves. They had the maori warden come and do it for them.	Roscoe (6288)
1325435	2013-01-29 00:38:00	It will be crown or council land that close to the water. I would have dug my heels in and rung the feld polizei. This is the place where the local cop was too chicken to arrest a local without getting help from his father and the fire brigade. If I was polzei I would have let Mr Glock do the talking.	prefect (6291)
1325436	2013-01-29 00:39:00	Zara: She said it was maori land and belonged to the people who lived in the house across the road. I wondered why the owners of the land did not have the guts to come and speak to us themselves. They had the maori warden come and do it for them. That sounds like an excuse. None of that waterfront land is owned by the landowners, as far as I can tell - Google Maps has the property boundaries marked. I'd send a complaint.	Zara Baxter (16260)
1325437	2013-01-29 00:40:00	It will be crown or council land that close to the water. I would have dug my heels in and rung the feld polizei. This is the place where the local cop was too chicken to arrest a local without getting help from his father and the fire brigade. If I was polzei I would have let Mr Glock do the talking. prefect, this is about the third time I've seen you suggest picking up a gun as a solution to a problem, with the implication that you would shoot. Please stop.	Zara Baxter (16260)
1325438	2013-01-29 00:43:00	I am going to take my camper bus and boat down there before summers end and test out my citizens rights on public land	prefect (6291)
1325439	2013-01-29 00:44:00	prefect, this is about the third time I've seen you suggest picking up a gun as a solution to a problem, with the implication that you would shoot. Please stop. The policeman had a gun in situation described but it was knocked out of his hand by relatives of the guy getting arrested. If the policeman had in unholstered I guess he was planning to use it. When I was a helicopter mechanic for the UN in Timor they said the gun you are carrying is not for decoration. '	prefect (6291)
1325440	2013-01-29 00:48:00	I thought that strip was public also, even has a picnic table on it further down doesn't it? in any case I've never heard of a residential property owning rights to the opposite side of the road. As I said though much of Kawhia is leasehold and it is possible it's Maori land so it might not be so simple. I've parked there myself on occasion but further away from the boatramp. It's not exactly a crowded town, I'm sure they could have survived letting you have a BBQ there. If it is Maori land though they may have been within their rights to ask you to move along. I went there myself the weekend before last and went for a walk down on ocean beach, beautiful sunday afternoon and less than a dozen people in view on the main beach ( a lot more cars than that though, dunno where the rest were hiding).	dugimodo (138)
1325441	2013-01-29 00:51:00	Depending on the situation, obtaining help to arrest a local could have been the only option. If a cop tries to arrest someone who has no respect for authority & has friends who have no respect for authority, it could easily turn nasty no matter what the cop is armed with. Even people who would have no qualms about pummelling a police officer into a fine paste seem to have at least a little respect for fire fighters, and they are also less likely to fight their way out of the situation if the odds are not stacked in their favour.	Greven (91)
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