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187547 2003-10-29 07:44:00 I have been setting up A RedHat box as a webserver (still can't get ftp working tho)
I have installed Internet Explorer 6 as well as Opera on RedHat for testing my websites & scripts, I have to keep minimising them to access the www folder underneath to make changes etc then maximise to view the changes.
All was well until a wee while ago & now everytime I minimize a window it completly disappears. They are still running cause when I try to open a 2nd instance the machine starts to crawl & crashes.
My 2 questions are how do I get a minimized app back onto the panel/taskbar & what is a quick way to view running apps/processes & kill them (nicely of course)
Thanks
45South (4769)
187548 2003-10-29 09:27:00 > My 2 questions are how do I get a minimized app back
> onto the panel/taskbar & what is a quick way to view
> running apps/processes & kill them (nicely of
> course)

OK, for killing wayward applications/processes the polite way, have a look for System Monitor - it should be under System Tools (I run KDE so I can't remember where it is in GNOME)

For killing wayward applications/processes the quick and dirty way, just use CTRL-ALT-ESC. You will get a skull & crossbones cursor and by simply clicking on the offending open application, it dies :D
Jen C (20)
187549 2003-10-29 11:02:00 I think that's a KDE-only thing with Ctrl + Alt + Esc.

I've got a launcher that runs "xkill" in my taskbar. Just click on the Icon on the taskbar and the stray window/application and its gone.

Are you sure that you're not also swapping between Virtual Desktops, and have set the Panel to show only the current desktops windows?
Chilling_Silently (228)
187550 2003-10-29 12:52:00 Thanks guys, man this Linux is a bit of a curve isn't it?
I've just got msql up & running with 1/2 dozen databases took a few goes but now it's working it's great.
Just got PShop 7.0 & Office XP running as well, it's slowly starting tpo take shape.
Thanks for all your help over the last week.
45South (4769)
187551 2003-10-30 03:09:00 When I'm using a GUI, I like to have a command line session going too. You could use an editor (joe, pico, ...) on your html files and switch between the sessions by Ctrl/Alt/F2 for the command line, and Ctrl/Alt/F7 for the X-Window GUI.

You can run top in the command line session --- that has a "k" to kill tasks .. or just "killall taskname". :D
Graham L (2)
187552 2003-10-30 05:38:00 Thanks Graham, good tip, I'll give it a go.
While I'm here, kudzu picks up my conextant winmodem on bootup & installs it.
When I use RedHat network configuration to make a connection it can't find the modem, I run Hardware detection utilty & it doesn't find or list it either.
But when I tried KPPP to make my connection, bingo on the net in 5 mins.
Any ideas? not a biggie as I've got my connection, I was just curious as to why the other more obvious choices failed
45South (4769)
187553 2003-10-30 11:53:00 Try lspci to get more specific details, and then look up and download Scanmodem.gz (Small 100kb odd tool).

Getting an updated driver may help.

Use chkconfig or redhat-config-services to stop Kudzu otherwise.
Chilling_Silently (228)
187554 2003-10-31 00:33:00 I don't like kudzu. :D I don't like "clever" software, which knows better than me. I prefer to tell the computer things.

You'll find the command line is very nice to use for repetitive things (try the up-arrow for commandline recall, editing and reuse).
Graham L (2)
187555 2003-10-31 02:55:00 You CLI nerd you ;). For us sudo nerds Guis(window managers) are just the ticket in Linux he he. mark.p (383)
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