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Thread ID: 39249 2003-10-31 10:46:00 Wow! I really liked Firebird, shame it let me down! Danger (287) Press F1
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188174 2003-10-31 10:46:00 It worked great but after two days started showing a forum I visit in strange format and would not recognize next page numbers so I couldn't access the complete thread. Then I'd go away, come back and it wouldn't start up. Uninstall, reinstall blah blah, loose my bookmarks, couple of days same thing, try system restore, that fixed the start up issue but still wouldn't display pages properly, then it stopped starting up again. Finally sick of it and back to IE6, which seems to save me all the hassles that Firebird and Opera have caused me. IE6 may not be quite as fast (maybe a second slower to load a page?) but it sure saves me untold grief and hassles. Hope everyone else has success with these browsers, for me their just not worth the hassle! Danger (287)
188175 2003-10-31 10:57:00 Sounds like something is up with your computer. That's certainly not a common problem and I can't say that I've ever come across that in any Firebird installations I've done. segfault (655)
188176 2003-10-31 11:07:00 I have no problems with Firebird. My pc is not the most modern either HP 600 running 98se 128 ram beama (111)
188177 2003-10-31 11:14:00 Buggy 3rd party extensions can cause problems with it. Did you have any installed?

When you uninstalled did you remove the firebird profile? It is in "Application Data", which is in "C:\WINDOWS" for win9x, and in your home directory in winXP. I think its still called "Phoenix" which is its old name.

If you reinstall make sure its the latest version, 0.7.
bmason (508)
188178 2003-10-31 11:49:00 I am using a Toshiba Satellite, 2.4 ghz P4 XP and have never had probs with anything but these browsers. I did not know about searching out the firebird profile, and had no 3rd party extensions. I had the latest version, 0.7. I just don't have the time to muck around with stuff that doesn't work properly for me at the moment, especially when IE6 works fine. Thanks for your suggestions tho, one day when I'm not so busy I may give Firebird another go, although looking on Mozzillas forum it seems I am not the only person that has problems with firebird. Perhaps a few more years development is needed? Danger (287)
188179 2003-10-31 12:03:00 Ive been using it since 0.4 and its been nothing short of brilliant! Chilling_Silently (228)
188180 2003-10-31 12:14:00 Yes, I agree IE6 may be crap but the new browsers are even worse, all of the new products are just like MS software of 8 years ago; prototypes masquerading as solid engineering generated because of time pressure by middle management. I keep thinking that I have something slick under my control for about half an hour then all of the faults start to show through as you use the miraculous new browser. When are we going to get an intuitive browser that has functions that any idiot can use as a normal human being who has a reasonable grasp of the english language?
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zqwerty (97)
188181 2003-10-31 20:44:00 > Yes, I agree IE6 may be crap but the new browsers are
> even worse, all of the new products are just like MS
> software of 8 years ago;

Can you provide some examples to back up what you're saying? Otherwise what you said is worthless.

I think the opposite is true. Mozilla {Browser, Firebird}, Epiphany, Galeon, Camino, Safari and Opera all have popup blocking, tabbed browsing support and superior support for web standards (HTML, CSS, DOM). Mozilla also has theming and third party extension support. (Opera probably does as well, but I'm not an Opera user so I wouldn't know).

I'd be really interested to hear why "the new browsers are even worse". The number of people turning to alternative browsers has to make you wonder why they are switching, doesn't it? Surely they wouldn't be stupid enough to move to something inferior.
segfault (655)
188182 2003-10-31 21:25:00 I use Opera, Avant, Firebird, And IE 5.5 in that order of preference all have their little quirks but i like speed when surfing on a 56k modem and Opera is the fastest I also use webwasher sometimes to block out all the banners etc kiwibeat (304)
188183 2003-10-31 22:52:00 I am using a Toshiba Satellite, 2 . 4 ghz P4 XP and have never had probs with anything but these browsers . I did not know about searching out the firebird profile, and had no 3rd party extensions . I had the latest version, 0 . 7 . I just don't have the time to muck around with stuff that doesn't work properly for me at the moment, especially when IE6 works fine .

The old saying, "If it ain't broke don't fix it" applies . However there must have been a reason for contemplating the change . On the upside it's dfferent hearing someone saying nice things about IE6 :)

I changed from IE6 to Netscape 7 . 1 then 7 . 2 because of stability problems with IE6 and I liked the NS mail client and wanted to use something other than the perforrated virus magnet Outlook Express . NS7 . 2 was somewhat unstable on my system which I eventually nailed down to XP pro . So I removed XP and went back to 98SE (After failing to get Linux running on the same system) and moved to Mozilla 1 . 3 then latterly 1 . 4 both of which were excellent and stable . I moved to Firebird and Thunderbird Mail simply because of the customizable interface and I run the "SkyPilot" theme . So far it has been the most stable Browser I've used up to and including IE6 . . . But I stress thats on my system . Pretty good considering it's a 0 . 7 version and therefore considered "still in development"

Thanks for your suggestions tho, one day when I'm not so busy I may give Firebird another go, although looking on Mozzillas forum it seems I am not the only person that has problems with firebird . Perhaps a few more years development is needed?

Being Open Source, Years will probably not be needed . The reason that bugs get posted on the Mozilla forums is because there is close to a 100% chance that the bug will be fixed in pretty short order by the OS development community . I would suggest Mozilla 1 . 4 as an alternative . However go into your "applications data" and delete the "mozilla" folder if there is one there before you do . It can be downloaded off any PC World CD of the last few months .

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