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Thread ID: 39233 2003-10-31 01:16:00 IE 'open in new window' freeze - kazaa mp3s munted javoyle (2120) Press F1
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188038 2003-11-01 03:17:00 Well if it's mp3s you want... WinMX is prob one of the best.

Lo.
Lohsing (219)
188039 2003-11-01 04:01:00 I think what you misunderstood about my earlier statement on fake files is that there are users who purposely host fake files.

They have been doing this pretty much since the conception of P2P networks, because some people think it a joke to annoy other people. Since then, the RIAA and other recording industry associations have picked up on the tactic, and also host fake files. Of course, because the RIAA wants you to buy the actual songs, they will rate the songs as 'Excellent', and the aforementioned users may also do this.

I do not wish to enter into an argument about the habits of employees of IDG New Zealand, however, I will say that some people excercise self control and refrain from breaking copyright laws.
agent (30)
188040 2003-11-01 07:40:00 i think its the music industry just hosting incomplete versions of popluar songs so that everyone will actually get fed up and buy the cd. vk_dre (195)
188041 2003-11-01 08:41:00 > Not nessicarily... as i said over 700 users had this same file, which undoubtedly would have been deleted from their PC upon realising it is a fake file, especially kazaa lite and kazaa accellerator users as they do not need other users to download files from them to get their participation up any higher, also the file had around 200 "excellent" file integrity rating tags... not a single user had a bad file tag.

Yep, 700 noobs that get paid by the RIAA to host fake files for them and rate them as excellent.

> As for napster 2, i dont have a credit card which, by my guessing, is the way to pay for it, i shall have a look at the site anyway.

I had a go at it last night, and it won't work if your outside the US. Must be some way to trick it into thinking I am...
PoWa (203)
188042 2003-11-01 20:25:00 To the original post, There is a Microsoft Money update sorta thing that replaces a few files that causes it to freeze, i had it once cause i had the same problem after i installed word 2002.

in fact i have the programme for you...

beef.orcon.net.nz
MrBeef (342)
188043 2003-11-01 21:39:00 > i think its the music industry just hosting
> incomplete versions of popluar songs so that everyone
> will actually get fed up and buy the cd.

Not really. You will find most people get them because they don't want to pay huge dollars simply for 1 song they want.
They will usually tend to say if I can't get it I will just wait for it to be played on the radio and tape it and then transfer it over to the PC.

If the music industry was really on to it they would charge realistic prices and have a way to give people what they want when they want it.

I know they have started but really it is too little too late. And they are certainly not realistic prices.
Big John (551)
188044 2003-11-01 22:05:00 Exactly my point.
I actually came up with an idea (and posted it on Flipside online during their piracy dispute)...
If all the music shops had like this computer kinda thing where shoppers can go into the shop (of course) and go to the computer, 'tell' the computer which songs from which artists they want, then the computer gets all the songs from a secure international network (which would be huge aye:)), then it puts them all together, burns them, prints a label with a barcode and then blurts it out with a case... the person then takes the cd, which the shopper puts inside the case, to the checkout to buy the cd... the price of the whole thing is determined by the value of each song and added up according to each individual song's price, determined by the shop or the record company or whatever... and then you have a cd compiled LAGALLY of all and ONLY the songs which you want from different artists... everyones happy, the shop, the record company, the purchaser, and especially the not-ripped-off-artist. - J
javoyle (2120)
188045 2003-11-01 23:21:00 lets not and say we did, ok? :) MrBeef (342)
188046 2003-11-01 23:43:00 > i think its the music industry just hosting
> incomplete versions of popluar songs so that everyone
> will actually get fed up and buy the cd.

That's exactly what it is. One of the big labels (I forget which one - I think it was Sony?) announced a few months back that it would flood the P2P networks with corrupted MP3s of their music so that it made it harder to download decent versions of them. And AFAIK it seems to be working.

Mike.
Mike (15)
188047 2003-11-01 23:55:00 > Exactly my point.
> I actually came up with an idea (and posted it on Flipside online during their piracy dispute)...

Well they've already invented that - Apple iTunes.
PoWa (203)
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