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Thread ID: 39233 2003-10-31 01:16:00 IE 'open in new window' freeze - kazaa mp3s munted javoyle (2120) Press F1
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188018 2003-10-31 01:16:00 I have win98se with IE 6.0 with SP1... when i use the 'open in new window function (which i use probably 50 times within 5 minutes) it opens the link in a new window but wont load... the frames, page etc wont load it just stops, and the only way to get the window to actually load the web page is by clicking stop then go (refresh wont work) otherwise it just stays blank and that kinda microsoft internet planet logo thingie in the top right corner of the window just keeps spinning...
anyways can someone help me i dont have the win98 CD otherwise i would reinstall IE and im not too keen on downloading IE... but i will if you guys cant help me

And another problem :)
I download a lot of mp3s from kazaa lite k++ but almost all of them come out ok... until halfway through the song when they go static or something i dont know what to make of it but its kinda like all the data is completly stuffed methinks
javoyle (2120)
188019 2003-10-31 03:38:00 the usuall fix that often (but not always) works is to restore the file oleaut32.dll from your OS cd. tweak'e (174)
188020 2003-10-31 04:07:00 I cannot help you with your Internet Explorer problem, but I can give you advice on Kazaa Lite K++: stop using it.

First and foremost, Kazaa Lite K++ is illegal to use in itself because it has effectively been reverse engineered from Sharman Networks' Kazaa Media Desktop software.

Secondly, no matter what way you look at it, downloading music that you don't have a licence for is illegal, it rips off artists, and it is unethical. Many artists primary source of income is their songs - and if you do not buy their songs, but instead download them, and distribute them to others, you are depriving them off income. It would be like a sales person who is paid by commission not receiving their commission, and that is a very bad comparison.

Thirdly, your problem with getting songs that sound mucked up is not a problem that you can solve. These are simply fake songs. Normal people have been hosting fake songs on Kazaa since it was first put into action, but the recording industry has picked up on this and host their own fake songs. This is an attempt to make you actually source the songs legitimately, you should realise. And if the system Kazaa uses to distinguish files works by file size, then it is likely you could source a proper copy of a song, but still end up with part of it seemingly corrupted, if a fake song was used as one of the sources. However, I think the system is based on hashes of the files, so perhaps it can distinguish based on file content also.
agent (30)
188021 2003-10-31 09:34:00 OK Firstly Mr policeman (or, "agent"(?) as the nickname suggests): if kazaa lite is not legal (BTW i do know its illegal but thats my problem not yours) then why did PCWorld sell its December 2002/January 2003 issue with kazaa lite on the CD? Ironic huh...
Thirdly these were files which came out perfectly on a friend's PC... the same file; its not exactly missable... it was a very popular file with over 700 available users to download from - not likely a fake song
I really would like to hear what youse have to say about kazaa LITE on Dec2002/Jan2003 PCW CD...
Jared
javoyle (2120)
188022 2003-10-31 09:58:00 The static mp3s are all the tossers out there sharing fake files. Try a different P2P network, e.g WinMX/eMule/DC++ or try the new Napster 2, where you can pay and download your mp3s legally. (napster.com).

Have fun :)
PoWa (203)
188023 2003-10-31 09:59:00 If you want to know the actual reason why magazine cover discs have been (and some may still) distributed with illegal derivatives of Kazaa Media Desktop on them, you should ask the magazine editor or cover disc compiler.

However, it is my opinion that they simply did not read the Licence Agreement you can read upon installation - after all, why would employees of a corporation involved in producing computing magazines want to be able to download illegitimate files at their place of work?

Furthermore, many people simply cannot be bothered to read agreements when they install things, for various reasons including because they can be long, boring, and tedious, to the fact that some agreements are simply outrageous.

By no means am I in any way involved with any law enforcement agency, but really, you should not be admitting to illegitimately downloading files in a public place - who knows how many search engines crawl and cache this forum, let alone the number of people who may be working with police, lawyers, and the recording industry to covertly browse forums like this and be on the look out for people who give a slip of the tongue about their downloading habits.

Yes, it is possible that the exact same file was downloaded perfectly on another computer. But the fact remains that your computer may have used a source that was fake, because sources are automatically determined, and chances are that your friend was just lucky enough not to get a fake source.

Given your circumstances, either try and try again until you get a perfect file, or get it off your friend - and I shouldn't even be saying this, given what I said before.

And given the information that the song has fake sources, and is available from more than 700 users, I would hazard at saying it was a song by Justin Timberlake - but don't forget that the main reason that fake songs are on the Kazaa network is to make you frustrated enough to buy the CD single.
agent (30)
188024 2003-10-31 10:48:00 Kazaa in itself is not illegal. It's just that a lot of people use it for illegal purposes. This doesn't make Kazaa illegal. segfault (655)
188025 2003-10-31 11:15:00 Yes, but alas, the nature of humans demands that some things be shared. For no cost. agent (30)
188026 2003-10-31 12:17:00 W....r zqwerty (97)
188027 2003-10-31 14:28:00 > Secondly, no matter what way you look at it,
> downloading music that you don't have a licence for
> is illegal, it rips off artists, and it is unethical.

As long as they are being ripped off. However there are many mp3's on P2P networks that are free to share because the artist has put them there and is quite happy to do that.

Don't call someone a rip off artist until you actually know they are doing it. In the USA you could get sued for that sort of thing without proof to back it up.
Big John (551)
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