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Thread ID: 39308 2003-11-02 06:52:00 can you speed up my internet connection? Megaman (344) Press F1
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188643 2003-11-03 01:19:00 the thing that cheeses me off most is that it says 56kbps so that is what i expect it to be. not 50.6 or 52 kbps. and the website claims it has a download capacity of 56kbps. i am running the latest os with the latest drivers and i am not happy about it. there is a pitiful 4.75kbps download speed. what is worse is that that speed is normal for many other people. our internet bill is huge because of all the time downloading and i am not happy. DSL providers make money out of this. peoples internet is so slow that they get DSL. a crazy tought here, but does anybody else think that clear and xtra do this purposely? Megaman (344)
188644 2003-11-03 01:40:00 Megaman,

The 56kbps rating on a modem is the maximum conceptual data rate at which the modem can connect. In reality, there are many factors that can affect the actual connection rate - Line quality, distance from exchange, number of devices attached to the line etc. An actual connection speed of 52kbps is excellent - I usually connect at 48 or 49.2kbps. As previously mentioned, this means that your 4.75KBps download speed is reasonable.

As for the seemingly higher download speeds in the early stages of a download, my understanding is that the file will begin downloading when you click the link, so that by the time you have clicked the Save button to confirm the download, a portion of the file has already downloaded, so the average throughput is quite high, as it is only calculated from the time you confirm the download. Hopefully somebody will correct me if this is not true. :8}

Cheers
Miami
Miami Steve (2128)
188645 2003-11-03 03:19:00 I'll try to make it a little clearer in your understanding by association.
You will notice the your maximum connection speed can be 56kb/s (which is kilo BITS per second) and data-transfer is a maximum of 7kB/s (which is kilo BYTES per second). There is 8 bits to a Byte. ( 7kB x 8 = 56kb ).
Bits, are like the letters that make up a word (Bytes).
Now why don't you get connection at 56K, because that can only be achieved in the Laboratory, and line capacitance, inductance and resistance come into play, along with the equipment at your telephone exchange.
Now the rate of 7kB/s includes what is termed "overhead" data, such as acknowledge, resend commands and parity bits. This data is included to make sure you get reliable true data. Also, the data is sent in packets, which is like making those words into a sentence. But if the "overhead" bits find the sentance/packet has been corrupted by noise, then a request to re-send that packet will be sent. Hence, noise can slow your download speed , even if you have connected at a high rate.
I hope this gives you some enlightenment and understanding. It can be so damn hard when your faced with another language (just about) with bits, Bytes, RAM, ROM, BIOS, etc...
Pheonix (280)
188646 2003-11-03 03:26:00 Thats my understanding as well Miami.

Its already downloaded a bit before it gets around to determining the speed. The portion already downloaded is counted and increases the reported speed.

Megaman, you are confusing kb/s with kB/s

The theoretical connect speed is 56 kbits per sec, but they can only connect at about 50 - 52 kbits sec due to there being at least some cable between you and the exchange.

The download speed is measured in kBYTES (kB) and therefore is lower.

This is due to there being 8 bits in a Byte. Then there is extra data for error correction and handshaking. Adds about 10 or 20%.

Rule of thumb is, divide the connect speed by about 10 to get max download speed.

50 kb/s connect is then about 5 kB/s download.

Some increases can be seen where the target file is highly compressable.
godfather (25)
188647 2003-11-03 03:47:00 gee. dont bite my head off Megaman (344)
188648 2003-11-03 03:51:00 You may possibly be interested in this article. (www.extremetech.com) tommy (2826)
188649 2003-11-03 06:56:00 Godfather, if I put my mouse over my puters on the taskbar when I am connected to the net, it says 115200bps, so I divided that by 8 and come up with 14400 so what does that relate to. When I was connected to Clear it always said 52 kbs, I think, now I am with Paradise, I get the numbers up above. I haven't changed anything except the phone number, so is there anything I can tick or untick to get it back to how I sort of understand it, as in 48 /52kbs? supergran (108)
188650 2003-11-03 07:09:00 If your PC is reporting a connect speed of 115200 bps, its an indicator that your modem may not have the right driver. Its odd that it changed when you changed ISP though.

The 115200 speed is the speed that your PC "talks" to the modem. Its not the speed at which your modem connects to the ISP (unfortunately!)

The port speed of 115200 is standard for connecting to modems.

If your modem is giving satisfactory download speeds, then no need to fix it, as its not really broken. Its just that you will not know your true connect speed.
godfather (25)
188651 2003-11-03 07:22:00 Yes it does sound weird that it only changed then, but it did. Thanks for the info, my connection is slow, but I put it down to long cords etc to get where my puter is. Thanks for the info. supergran (108)
188652 2003-11-03 07:33:00 so lucky.... connecting at those speeds, get download speeds like that.
I connect at aroun 30kbps, and get MAX downloads of 2kBps.... and plus - it only lasts like 10min, then i have to reconect...
see - pressf1.pcworld.co.nz

So you should be happy with your connection
fergie (424)
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