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189956 2003-11-07 18:39:00 Ok, I may be wrong and my thinking might be off but I figure I'd ask to gain more understanding.

I have gone through a few sites Dick Smith's, E-One Computers, QMB etc (to name a few) in search of an operating system to buy. Now apart from the upgrade versions and Linux, you cannot buy ANY of them without purchasing a NEW COMPUTER SYSTEM. This vexes me slightly

Now I do see the obvious anti-piracy protection this provides.

What I am querying is how do you get an OS if you build your PC piece by piece (patiently waiting for all the parts you specifically want). Now I know you're gonna say, " why not just save up all the money and buy everything at once... "realistically people don't function that way... I mean if you want it you want it NOW even if just to look at until the next part comes along.

So how do I get an OS for my computer which I've built piece by piece. This is assuming you cannot use the one you have as it technically violates copyright laws .... 1 OS license per computer.

Does this mean I can have one OS disc but multiple licenses for that one disc?

Does this pave the way for Open source Os's ( I think so) but they should become more user friendly, not everyone out there is gonna want to edit kernels and RPM's etc.

Am I making sense or should I stop babbling now?

All comments greatly appreciated.

cheers
chiefnz 		chiefnz (545)
189957 2003-11-07 18:53:00 You should be able to get an OEM version when you buy a motherboard and cpu. That is what Ive done since Win 95. Just ask around the suppliers, but not stores like DSE or Noel Leeming and the like. Terry Porritt (14)
189958 2003-11-07 19:14:00 Last year I bought XP Pro thru ebay.
There was something in the purchase about being supplied with some equipment (turned out to be some sort of ribbon connection) but I saved nearly $500 doing it that way.
I figured that as long as they sell/give some piece of computer part with the OS then they can give you cheaper price.

sam m 		sam m (517)
189959 2003-11-07 19:44:00 You can buy a full version of Win XP from places like Harvey Norman, Dick Smith, etc but you will pay full price too . . . . .

The OEM version that comes with new hardware is supposed to remain with the computer the parts were purchased for and not transferred to another machine when the original dies . That is why it is cheaper than the full version - you have restrictions .

Regarding purchasing an OEM version, like Terry says you should be able to buy a motherboard and CPU or hard drive and qualify for an OEM Win XP . I would advise shopping around (use Pricespy) when you do so because there can be a huge variation in prices between dealers for Win XP as well as the parts .

As far as buying your bits piece by piece I consider that quite unwise if the parts are just going to be sitting there for you to "look at them" rather than replace things in your current PC until the whole thing is rebuilt . Hardware and prices change so rapidly you could either save yourself heaps of money purchasing the parts you have chosen all together when you have enough money OR you will be able to get higher spec parts for the same money .

If you will be replacing things in your current PC piece by piece, however, that is a different kettle of fish . 		Susan B (19)
189960 2003-11-08 02:31:00 My fav computer shop at the mo. Full or OEM versions on offer. AquilaTech (www.aquilatech.co.nz). As the others have said, purchase something usefull to make it legit.

Cheers Murray P 		Murray P (44)
189961 2003-11-08 03:17:00 Hi guys thanks for the replies, it helps a bit .

Yeah Susan I do plan to replace each part piece by piece, I don't want it sitting in a corner collecting dust as you mentioned . That's the part which concerns me, If I used XP Pro and gradually changed my entire system, would it affect the activation each time I upgraded something . Apparently XP doesn't like big upgrade jobs at a time and it requires reactivation each time you do a significant upgrade .

So you guy's reckon go in there and buy a IDE cable and get an OS for a cheaper price . . . . as opposed to buying a whole new PC that is I mean .

Ok here's another question . . . . I have Windows 2000 Pro, it's installed on all the computers on my home LAN . Is this illegal and how do I go about correcting the situation if it is illegal? Can I correct the situaiotn if it is illegal?

Of course things would be just dandy if i could find a version of linux that worked on my computer so i could get a fair idea of how it would suti my needs, then again I don't think anyone else in the house would appreciate such an "incredulous" step in the the open source unknown!!
?:|
cheers
chiefnz 		chiefnz (545)
189962 2003-11-08 03:17:00 Hi guys thanks for the replies, it helps a bit .

Yeah Susan I do plan to replace each part piece by piece, I don't want it sitting in a corner collecting dust as you mentioned . That's the part which concerns me, If I used XP Pro and gradually changed my entire system, would it affect the activation each time I upgraded something . Apparently XP doesn't like big upgrade jobs at a time and it requires reactivation each time you do a significant upgrade .

So you guy's reckon go in there and buy a IDE cable and get an OS for a cheaper price . . . . as opposed to buying a whole new PC that is I mean .

Ok here's another question . . . . I have Windows 2000 Pro, it's installed on all the computers on my home LAN . Is this illegal and how do I go about correcting the situation if it is illegal? Can I correct the situaiotn if it is illegal?

Of course things would be just dandy if i could find a version of linux that worked on my computer so i could get a fair idea of how it would suti my needs, then again I don't think anyone else in the house would appreciate such an "incredulous" step in the the open source unknown!! ;
?:|
cheers
chiefnz 		chiefnz (545)
189963 2003-11-08 03:34:00 yeah,multiple installs of w2k is ilegal,The best course of action is just to not mention it.

If its keeping you awake at night then go spend... (metla goes to check pricelist)...wow.....that can't be right. 		metla (154)
189964 2003-11-08 04:33:00 > So you guy's reckon go in there and buy a IDE cable and get an OS for a cheaper price.... as opposed to buying a whole new PC that is I mean.

Ummm..... no. I doubt you would be able to go and buy an IDE cable and get an OS for a cheaper price - I think that was a bit of an exaggeration. I would think you need to buy something more than that. ;-)


> Ok here's another question.... I have Windows 2000 Pro, it's installed on all the computers on my home LAN. Is this illegal and how do I go about correcting the situation if it is illegal? Can I correct the situaiotn if it is illegal?

Yes, very illegal. How many computers are you talking about? If you want to correct the situation you could buy more OS's second hand from out of the paper or on Trademe. 		Susan B (19)
189965 2003-11-08 06:17:00 You might be interested in:
ftp://debian.co.nz/Knoppix/KNOPPIX_V3.3-2003-09-22-EN.iso
ftp://debian.co.nz/Knoppix/KNOPPIX_V3.3-2003-09-22-EN.iso.md5

This will get you off in the right direction. Remember, full distro's are more likely to work, as when you have it installed you can tweak the hardware as need be.

AFAIK you can do HD installs of Knoppix if you like it enough to give it residancy on your Hard Drive.

Last time I looked, Win2K Pro was between $550 and $1300 (All Win2K Pro... Lets not even go into Server).

Might be better getting WinXP for each PC rather than buying 2K liscences!

Hypothetically, If I buy a Full-Liscence of XP.. and wanna upgrade 2K per say... because I dont wanna format.. Is this legit?


Chill.
There are ways to stop XP from wanting to re-register, but you'd have to email me as I dont know how many people would/wouldnt be happy with me writing that here (It is legit AFAIK too...!) 		Chilling_Silently (228)
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