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1350181 2013-07-30 09:55:00 Anyone know the potential performance difference between a PCI-e SSD vs a SATA SSD? Specifically the difference between the Sony Vaio Pro 11" vs the Vaio Pro 13". Is the performance gain worth the trade off in additional size/weight?

Seriously considering buying the Vaio Pro 11" for its size, but not sure if the Vaio Pro 13's PCI-e SSD would make much difference.

Good old NZ and Australia only has the non-upgradable model with 4GB of RAM. As I need to run multiple VM from time to time, might have to order one from Sony USA as they can config with 8GB and 256GB SSD for the Vaio Pro 11 or up to 512GB SSD for the Vaio Pro 13. Has anyone bought anything from Sony USA before, is there any potential issues? Have just signed up for YouShop with NZ Post, so shipping address sorted (I hope).
Geek4414 (12000)
1350182 2013-07-30 10:32:00 There is a significant difference between a high-end SATA SSD and a high-end PCIe SSD. Whether there is in the specific models Sony use, I don't know. But that said, for most users, the difference is not noticable. inphinity (7274)
1350183 2013-07-30 22:04:00 Tell me if I'm wrong, but PCI-E SSD have considerably more bandwidth so are therefore a lot faster.

Not sure if this just applies to desktops only though because PCI-E SSD's are VERY expensive compared to sata drives.
Nerdtastic (16693)
1350184 2013-07-30 22:35:00 Loads of difference

anandtech.com
SolMiester (139)
1350185 2013-07-30 23:15:00 Thanks all for the info . I have read a bit about the bandwidth differences between SATA and PCI-e .

Interesting to see the huge differences between the Samsung 840 and OCZ . However I think the 840 was meant to be a bit average, the 840Pro was substantially faster even though both are SATA .

The VAIO Pro13 is USD $1775 vs USD $1675 for the Pro 11 with same size 256GB SSD and 8GB and sheet battery .

The Pro 13 does have 512GB version for $450 more .

It really is down to real world performance differences between the two with the same size 256GB SSD .

The Pro11 is incredibly tiny, virtually no diff to taking a tablet around . Even with the sheet battery added (14 hours battery life!!), its still lighter than the MBA . Thats the main appeal to it, the Pro13 is not bulky by any means but certainly not as compact to carry everywhere in my back pack .
Geek4414 (12000)
1350186 2013-07-30 23:21:00 11'' is pretty small.
What will you be using it for?
Nerdtastic (16693)
1350187 2013-07-30 23:47:00 if your going to get a pro11 why not get a ramdisk.... more speed than you will ever need. Slankydudl (16687)
1350188 2013-07-31 00:18:00 11'' is pretty small.
What will you be using it for?

I had a Vaio TZ 11" before and used to the small screen, and loved the portability, especially when travelling through Europe. The 11" TZ only had 1336 x 768 res, so text is still going to be bigger than this VAIO Pro 11 with full HD resolution (1920 x 1080). This might be a challenge to some, but my eye sight is still ok for now! And I always have tiny text on all my PCs anyway, so I can have as much displayed at once as possible, especially with large Excel spreadsheet. I will probably go and have a another look at a display one at JBHIFi (am in Australia at the moment, don't think they are on display in NZ yet) before I decide.

At home/office, it will be connected to a 24" monitor, so the screen size isn't really an issue for me, portability is. I need my laptop with me pretty much 24/7. Currently carrying a VAIO Z1 13" with me in my backpack, it's 1.4Kg, so not huge but does notice the weight, especially along with other gadgets etc. I have been using my VAIO Z1 pretty much as my main machine, the desktop is hardly switched on, only use it when I need the dual screens and doing some mass CD/DVD burning. Typical cases are big Excel spreadsheets, concurrent RDP sessions to multiple systems, multiple VMs, Photoshop, and email, browsing (20+ Tabs/windows opened) etc. And usually all of these at all once (LOL), so the measly 4GB of RAM with NZ/Aus models are too restrictive, really need 8GB. I have no idea why Sony only let USA has that option, even their UK and HK web site only has 4GB option!
Geek4414 (12000)
1350189 2013-07-31 00:27:00 if your going to get a pro11 why not get a ramdisk.... more speed than you will ever need.

Well, I need all the RAM I have for opening tons of stuff all at once. LOL

I have a 32GB SD and 16GB MS cards permanently in my current VAIO Z1. Using them to store working files to avoid wearing out and filling up the Quad-RAID0 SSD. Guess how much it cost to replace that proprietary SSD .... NZ$1900+ !!! Had to replace one for my client recently and thank goodness that Sony and the local distributor agreed to replace it for nothing even though it is 2 years old and out of warranty!

Learnt the hard way recently with a few ultrabook about the next to impossible task of data recovery from SSDs, so anything important immediately get copied to the SD card, so if something happens to the laptop/ssd, I can just take the SD card and work from another computer, no need to sweat over data recovery if the laptop/ssd need to be sent away for repair.
Geek4414 (12000)
1350190 2013-07-31 00:36:00 Learnt the hard way recently with a few ultrabook about the next to impossible task of data recovery from SSDs, so anything important immediately get copied to the SD card, so if something happens to the laptop/ssd, I can just take the SD card and work from another computer, no need to sweat over data recovery if the laptop/ssd need to be sent away for repair.

Data recovery? Don't you mean, restore from your regular backups? ;)
inphinity (7274)
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