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Thread ID: 129193	2013-02-09 02:32:00	Looking after motor vehicles.	Nomad (952)	PC World Chat

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1327168	2013-02-09 22:32:00	They could just do a quick inspection too, I wouldn't trust too much on the odometer reading :D Bought cars with the so called odometer certificate thingie. Yeah right, one vehicle had like 20k on the clock but the tyres were different to the spare, :lol: We don't take account of the clock anyway. I read that the drive belt is done every 4 or 6yrs (60,000 miles) for some cars. Ref: Haynes manual. I tend to take their stuff on the conservative side thou :D	Nomad (952)
1327169	2013-02-09 23:25:00	When I get my next car, after I win lotto of course :rolleyes: I plan on getting something pre 1980 and do it up from scratch. That way, I'll not only have the satisfaction of driving around in something you produced with hard work, not a loan, as well as the cost saving/satisfaction of being able to repair, and know what/how to repair everything that breaks down. Also much simpler to maintain. Only thing to worry about would be fuel consumption, then again, a properly managed "old" car will do the same K's to the Litre as most of NZ's post 2000 fleet, simply because most cars aren't running optimally. Its more expensive to actually get them running perfect than you'd normally save unless you have the experiance to DIY.	The Error Guy (14052)
1327170	2013-02-10 02:25:00	My wifes car we buy a new one get 3 yrs free servicing and drive it for a further 2 years with absolutely no servicing at all other than wof and trade it in on another new car. By none I mean none dont even check the oil. On one car the battery had to be replaced, tyres of course. ...wont be ever buying a car off you then.	Disco_Dan (16576)
1327171	2013-02-10 02:55:00	I have a V6 Camry, the toyota dealer reckoned they are good to leave the belt to around 150,000 km but I'm a little sceptical. It's a 2002 with only around 80,000km on the clock and it still drives like new. I only do maybe 5000km a year, sometimes a bit more, sometimes less, so I get my car serviced every 10,000km rather than 6 monthly and trust my local mechanic to let me know if anything else needs doing. He seems pretty straight up so I'm happy with that. I know some people will say 6 monthly regardless of milage, but The oil comes out looking almost the same as it does going in as it is. When I was younger I bought cheap cars with 200,000+ miles (not km, 2 of my first 3 cars predated km on the speedo) on them because that's all I could afford, I was constantly having to fix things and did a great deal of it myself. I almost never changed the oil though, the first 2 cars used around a litre every week or two so I figured it was on a constant refresh cycle anyway. Ever since I could afford to buy cars with less than 100,000 km on the clock and sell them before they get too close to 200,000km I have had very little mechanical problems - going on for 20 years now and the worst things I can think of are a failed water pump and a worn out shock absorber. My first car went through 2 engines and 1 recondition, my 2nd car went through 2 engines, and my third car did 3 engines in 6 months (Holden sunbird with a 202 in it - worst car I ever owned). Then I bought a corolla with 60,000km on the clock and forgot all about doing my own repairs ever again. Prior to my Camry I owned a Nissan bluebird and I couldn't get at the oil filter because they hide it under the exhaust manifold between the engine and the firewall and that's when I stopped changing my own oil. These days when you open a bonnet all you see is plastic covers and tubes running everywhere. I don't even bother.	dugimodo (138)
1327172	2013-02-10 03:57:00	...wont be ever buying a car off you then. That is correct you will never buy a car off me, I trade in them in at Ford/Mazda.	prefect (6291)
1327173	2013-02-10 05:26:00	They could just do a quick inspection too, I wouldn't trust too much on the odometer reading :D Bought cars with the so called odometer certificate thingie. Yeah right, one vehicle had like 20k on the clock but the tyres were different to the spare, :lol: We don't take account of the clock anyway. I read that the drive belt is done every 4 or 6yrs (60,000 miles) for some cars. Ref: Haynes manual. I tend to take their stuff on the conservative side thou :D Good idea for a quick timing belt check. But some engines require the rocker cover to be removed, as some have a lip over the top timing cover which need to be removed for inspection. Also some engine mount/ and it's holding plate may need removal as some partially block easy removal of the top cover. Though they could include for WOF (optionally?), but likely to increase the fee. Or a sealed but removal sight glass for quick check. What they had on some early carb's. When I get my next car, after I win lotto of course :rolleyes: I plan on getting something pre 1980 and do it up from scratch. That way, I'll not only have the satisfaction of driving around in something you produced with hard work, not a loan, as well as the cost saving/satisfaction of being able to repair, and know what/how to repair everything that breaks down. Also much simpler to maintain. Only thing to worry about would be fuel consumption, then again, a properly managed "old" car will do the same K's to the Litre as most of NZ's post 2000 fleet, simply because most cars aren't running optimally. Its more expensive to actually get them running perfect than you'd normally save unless you have the experiance to DIY. Yeah what I use to go with my earlier cars, kind of learn from the ground up literally. But the older the car the harder to source parts, probably getting into carburetters and older suspension platforms, e.g. the steering idler supports, leaf springs, and pre rack and pinion setups, e.g. steering boxes. Early 80's "may" be a bettter choice. I have a V6 Camry, the toyota dealer reckoned they are good to leave the belt to around 150,000 km but I'm a little sceptical. It's a 2002 with only around 80,000km on the clock and it still drives like new. I only do maybe 5000km a year, sometimes a bit more, sometimes less, so I get my car serviced every 10,000km rather than 6 monthly and trust my local mechanic to let me know if anything else needs doing. He seems pretty straight up so I'm happy with that. I know some people will say 6 monthly regardless of milage, but The oil comes out looking almost the same as it does going in as it is. When I was younger I bought cheap cars with 200,000+ miles (not km, 2 of my first 3 cars predated km on the speedo) on them because that's all I could afford, I was constantly having to fix things and did a great deal of it myself. I almost never changed the oil though, the first 2 cars used around a litre every week or two so I figured it was on a constant refresh cycle anyway. Ever since I could afford to buy cars with less than 100,000 km on the clock and sell them before they get too close to 200,000km I have had very little mechanical problems - going on for 20 years now and the worst things I can think of are a failed water pump and a worn out shock absorber. My first car went through 2 engines and 1 recondition, my 2nd car went through 2 engines, and my third car did 3 engines in 6 months (Holden sunbird with a 202 in it - worst car I ever owned). Then I bought a corolla with 60,000km on the clock and forgot all about doing my own repairs ever again. Prior to my Camry I owned a Nissan bluebird and I couldn't get at the oil filter because they hide it under the exhaust manifold between the engine and the firewall and that's when I stopped changing my own oil. These days when you open a bonnet all you see is plastic covers and tubes running everywhere. I don't even bother. 3 engines in 6 months? Sure they were not the old 186's rebored to 202's. Common with NZ's in the early - mid 70's. Can't off been rebored properly. Disliked early Holdens and their clacky engines, with valve lengthy stems, but what was seemingly only around then. Remind me of my old Torana I use to blat around in, and the oversize Holden Belmont.	kahawai chaser (3545)
1327174	2013-02-10 18:25:00	Well the sunbird had it's reasons I guess - the sordid tale for any who are interested: Originally I got the thing from my father and a friend of his, milage was horrendous and gear changes horrible, turned out the gearbox was stuffed and I ended up replacing it - we had a theory whoever had fitted the 202 had for some reason used the 4 cylinder gearbox and changed the bell housing adapter plate. After fixing that it stripped a timing gear so I got the cam shaft out and my brother and his mechanic came around to help fit the new gear (with an axe and a block of wood, I coulda done that bloody cowboys :) ). Next I had to replace the lifters which weren't working properly. At this point I started to suspect I'd got a lemon. Then I started having overheating problems, seems it had a clogged up radiator so I was running it with no thermostat until I got aound to fixing it which was fine for the 5-10 min trip to work and back but then it got stolen and driven to Auckland. It didn't make it and was found with a seized engine around Bombay so I got it back in no fit state, although it had been painted a bit and some new wheels attached. I got an engine from a local wrecker who assured me it was a good one, when it made weird noises he told me not to worry it was only gudgeon rattle. Not knowing what that was I asked my brother who nearly had a fit down the phone and told me to bring it to his workshop so he could have a look (truck repair business), on the way (30 min drive) it threw a piston through the side of the engine (gudgeons apparently connect the piston to the conrod). It's quite something to lift your bonnet and see a hole you could put your arm in. After much arguments over the phone, mainly between my brother and the wrecker, he gave me another engine again promising it was a good one. The new engine was not a good runner, we got it going but weren't happy with it. My brother wanted to have another go at the wrecker but I just traded it in on my first corolla and washed my hands of it, I'd had enough of that car by then.	dugimodo (138)
1327175	2013-02-10 20:19:00	Good decision.	Richard (739)
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