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Thread ID: 39539 2003-11-09 23:58:00 Windows is not the only OS, which could get a security flaw stu140103 (137) Press F1
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190533 2003-11-12 08:51:00 > Thats because Microsoft use their own java
> implementation on windows. They don't use Sun's
> version of Java.

heh?

You will find that only early releases of winxp used the windows version,and after court procedings that was dropped complety,Service pack disables the windows version.
metla (154)
190534 2003-11-12 08:53:00 Correct. But no-where did I mention that this was specific to only Windows XP. segfault (655)
190535 2003-11-12 09:05:00 I beleive when XP was released java was not included but downloadable from MS. XP SP1 included it ( because of bussiness market presssure)and the consequent SP1a had it removed again and MS took it of their website. mark.p (383)
190536 2003-11-12 09:37:00 Isn't the home directory one of the MOST important area to have programs not be able to access. Seeing as that is where one would store documents created by ones self.

I don't know anyone that uses the Windows JVM they all use the Sun one.
-=JM=- (16)
190537 2003-11-12 09:47:00 It really depends what your set up is. I have all my files (documents, music, videos, etc) mounted over an NFS share. If I lost my home directory, it would take me about 30 minutes to recreate. Most of the files in there are configuration files for the apps that I use.

It always pays to have backups though.
segfault (655)
190538 2003-11-12 09:48:00 Sorta.. and Sorta not...

Think about this:
Would you rather:
A. Have all your documents and settings lost and have to revert back to last weeks backups?
Or:
B. Lose your whole OS, have to format and re-install all your apps, re-apply updates, patches, service packs, and settings, then restore your documents too?
Its not that hard in Linux to make a backup of my folder.. I have a folder called /transfer which is accessible over the LAN.
all I have to do is:
cp ~/ /transfer/backup
and thats it.. a few mins later I have a fully working backup.

Should I damage my user somehow majorly, its a simple matter of deleting my user, re-adding it, and re-copying the files back across my HDD :-)

However.. If you dont do regular backups then you're screwed anyways ;-) :p
Chilling_Silently (228)
190539 2003-11-12 10:01:00 the OS is irrelevant, it's how the OS is setup. it's all in the admin/user -=JM=- (16)
190540 2003-11-12 10:11:00 True, but WinXP defaults to Administrator accounts... Win9x was useless for local security...

You are right though :-)
Chilling_Silently (228)
190541 2003-11-12 19:36:00 Well part of it is also personal preference...

For my account in Windows XP, all I did was rename the default administrator account to my name.

And call me ignorant and stupid for always using the administrator account, but it is my personal preference. I did once try having a separate account, in my previous installation, but it was too much hassle. Because I am constantly installing, uninstalling, configuring services, testing apps, trying out things that are new to me, etc.

The point is, it was too much hassle for me to be constantly right clicking on things and selecting 'Run as... administrator'. The least I can do is install a firewall, run on-access virus scanners, and be knowledgeable about what I run (I learnt that after I released Nimda on my network... don't know how I actually got it in the first place, because it obviously got past my virus scanner, but yeah... I was using Windows ME back then).
agent (30)
190542 2003-11-12 19:59:00 > Well part of it is also personal preference...
,SNIP>
> The point is, it was too much hassle for me to be
> constantly right clicking on things and selecting
> 'Run as... administrator'. The least I can do is
> install a firewall, run on-access virus scanners, and
> be knowledgeable about what I run (I learnt that
> after I released Nimda on my network... don't know
> how I actually got it in the first place, because it
> obviously got past my virus scanner, but yeah... I
> was using Windows ME back then).
This is where Linux has it over XP. You press alt-F* logon as root and do the biz.
mark.p (383)
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