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| Thread ID: 39539 | 2003-11-09 23:58:00 | Windows is not the only OS, which could get a security flaw | stu140103 (137) | Press F1 |
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| 190493 | 2003-11-10 09:23:00 | As others have said, the issue is not really that any OS has security flaws - they all do - what else could you expect with the millions of lines of code they have! The real issue is what happens when a security flaw is identified? Do we wait for a fix from MS while they continue to make the best out of the marketing ploy of "Secure Computing", or do we get a quick and well written fix from the open source community? | JohnD (509) | ||
| 190494 | 2003-11-10 09:59:00 | That's the great thing about it being open-source.. everybody could see it and fix it. Imagine if Bill gates decided to modify the code a few days becore it was compiled for shipping and stuff.. Who'd stop him? Certainly not the customers who buy his product, correct? And then there's the "virus" in linux.. it can really only do damage to the users personal files, but not the rest of the system or any other users personal files. A properly setup PC in Linux (Say, a LFS system with Apache and a few other Apache dependancies) will be nearly impenetrable. With Doze though, you still have to Update Internet Explorer even if you dont use the stupid thing! |
Chilling_Silently (228) | ||
| 190495 | 2003-11-10 10:10:00 | Bruce has a good point in todays aardvark (http://www.aardvark.co.nz/). If MS (or any other company, a sponsor in the case of opensource) really cared about security they would be offering a reward to anyone who finds a bug. This would influence both developers and [h|cr]ackers. For the developer, every line of code they write will have a potential cost. For those looking to break it, it would be a much more respectable than ratting our your peers. |
bmason (508) | ||
| 190496 | 2003-11-10 10:33:00 | Yes that is a pathetic move by Lindows and could do a lot of damage to Linux in general | mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 190497 | 2003-11-10 10:36:00 | Sorry couldn't resist it but is that like Tomato sauce :D (source) | mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 190498 | 2003-11-10 10:43:00 | >For the developer, every line of code they write will have a potential cost. When you take the fact that most open source developers do not gain any renumeration from their work that would actually kill the open source community so I think that scheme would do more damage than good. It would even make the closed source community fear too much. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 190499 | 2003-11-10 19:34:00 | > Its a Popularity thing > > Microsoft Super Popular = More Crackers Interested Hmmm the thing is MS had been notified of vulnerabilities "before" releasing there latest incarnations of MS Windows. > One of the reasons why we havn't seen Cellphone > Virus's yet. No-ones going to write a virus just for > Sony Ericssion P300s for Example. So diversity is good OSS gives folk that > > I also think its because the Crackers are on > OpenSauce Sause on crackers is good ;) Where's all the proof that OSS folk are to blame? More like teen age script kidies out for a cheap thrill.................... |
mark.p (383) | ||
| 190500 | 2003-11-10 20:02:00 | > Yes that is a pathetic move by Lindows and could do a lot of damage to Linux in > general True, but you have to remember that even if people did have seperate accounts, how many users would give themselves privilages to access most of the system anyway? Some people [generally] only click to the fact that you can't access certain files after they get a virus or stuff something up big time. There was a Sharktank thing about something like that a few weeks ago... This control-freak IT manager just HAS to have the same rights that his mainframe programmers and operators have. Then one day, the entire transaction system vanishes suddenly for 400 users. "Even stranger, a crisis had occurred, and the boss wasn't demanding a status report," says a pilot fish on the scene. Apparently, the boss had had trouble logging out, so he used a very risky, very restricted, warned-about-in-the-docs utility. "He logged himself out -- and took 400 users with him," says fish. "He let us take away his unnecessary authorities after that. No arguments." |
cyberchuck (173) | ||
| 190501 | 2003-11-10 20:14:00 | > Where's all the proof that OSS folk are to blame? More like teen age script > kidies out for a cheap thrill.................... Well to a little extent some of the crackers will be using non-MS systems (GNU/Linux for example) and are VERY anti-MS and hence go putting out the worms/viruses etc for Windows systems. Just a guess though. |
-=JM=- (16) | ||
| 190502 | 2003-11-10 20:53:00 | > > Yes that is a pathetic move by Lindows and could do > a lot of damage to Linux in > > general > > True, but you have to remember that even if people > did have seperate accounts, how many users would give > themselves privilages to access most of the system > anyway? Some people [generally] only click to the > fact that you can't access certain files after they > get a virus or stuff something up big time. I learned this after I used root for all my day-to-day things and removed the /initrd folder (Which was empty). Had I been a regular user, it would have been write-protected and set off warning bells in my head. Personally, I've put in restrictions on my PC, such as mounting my FAT32 partition which contains my Media and Installation files as 744, so I only have Read-Only access.. Once a week or so, when it comes time to update it, I'll su to root and modify it. It just means I cant hurt it myself accidentally and that's a great thing. In Doze, I didnt have that option, and many-a-time have my family killed their own media collections among other things! |
Chilling_Silently (228) | ||
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