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Thread ID: 39619 2003-11-12 06:42:00 OT:- WarDriving in Auckland. nz_liam (845) Press F1
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191268 2003-11-13 20:34:00 Whats the problem Buddha? segfault (655)
191269 2003-11-14 02:01:00 Take a look at pressf1.pcworld.co.nz :) nz_liam (845)
191270 2003-11-14 02:27:00 > I don't see anything wrong with sending out pings to
> probe the location of networks. It's not unsimilar to
> active radar being used to find the location of ships
> and airplanes, and I suppose that's illegal?

I don't have a problem if all you're doing is searching for networks. The problem I do have is that in this thread, someone has already mentioned leeching mp3s from 'newbie unprotected networks.'

That's the huge difference right there. I myself have a wireless network, and if I found out some kid was sitting in a car outside my house trying to access my network... well... I wouldn't be happy, but that's just me.

If all you're doing is 'pinging networks' or using 'active radar to find ships' then no problems. If you're intending to go into those networks to look at someone's files... well, whole new kettle of fish.

Lo.
Lohsing (219)
191271 2003-11-14 02:42:00 > That's the huge difference right there. I myself have
> a wireless network, and if I found out some kid was
> sitting in a car outside my house trying to access my
> network... well... I wouldn't be happy, but that's
> just me.

Agreed, but that would be hacking, not WarDriving.

> If all you're doing is 'pinging networks' or using
> 'active radar to find ships' then no problems.

Which we are, (not the active radar part though :p).


War driving is a bit like going on a "photographic safari", you simply surveying wireless activity, not a "hunting safari" where you’re breaking into networks.



Cheers

nz_liam
nz_liam (845)
191272 2003-11-14 02:45:00 If I knew I wasn't going to be absolutely hungover and written off over the weekend, I'd almost be tempted... ;)

Lo.
Lohsing (219)
191273 2003-11-14 02:52:00 > If I knew I wasn't going to be absolutely hungover
> and written off over the weekend, I'd almost be
> tempted... ;)
>
> Lo.

Your welcome to join us, you only need to bring a laptop and a 12 pack ;)
nz_liam (845)
191274 2003-11-14 11:45:00 Well I've had an interesting evening….

My friend had an old laptop at his house, (one with a serial port for my GPS :D), so we went for a drive round the CBD and Albany Industrial Park, and this is what we ended up with; 236 unique wireless devices in total, 146 of which were unsecured (that’s 62%!) including 3 Dynalink Wireless ADSL Routers, with factory default settings (i.e. no encryption, no MAC binding, and DCHP enabled!!).

I might also add that one of the un-encrypted Access points appeared to belong to a prominent Auckland ISP.

The data has been uploaded to the wigle.net database, so have a look at this thread (pressf1.pcworld.co.nz) for a NZ map of what we found :)


Cheers

nz_liam :)
nz_liam (845)
191275 2003-11-14 13:53:00 What a bunch of W.....s. zqwerty (97)
191276 2003-11-14 17:35:00 What is the difference if any... Wardriving or Warchalking?

My last visit to London earlier this year it was Warchalking.

Those with worries... It died

OldEric
OldEric (3062)
191277 2003-11-14 18:59:00 When people warchalk, they put a mark on the ground with chalk to let people know that there is a wireless node there. They can tell from the mark whether the node is open or closed, the SSID of the node and how fast the link is. segfault (655)
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