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| Thread ID: 39760 | 2003-11-16 22:23:00 | Running Network over Phone Cable | cyberchuck (173) | Press F1 |
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| 192520 | 2003-11-16 22:23:00 | Hey In a few weeks time our student will be leaving to head back to Tai Pei (IIRC) and I'll (hopefully) get free rein of the sleepout where she's staying. Anyway, she currently has a phone line hooked up by the nice guys at the company which does all the contract work for Telecom (can't remember their name) and that's sweet, however when she leaves, and her phone line is disconnected, I'm wondering about calling up these guys (or Telecom) and seeing about rewiring the connection so instead of going from the sleepout to the telephone pole it goes from the sleepout to the house (about 5 meters away from eachother) and once that's done just wiring it all up (changing the connections over obviously and so forth) so I can plug my PC into the network from the sleepout. So I guess the questions are: 1 - would this be possible - does the phone line have the same amount of cables as a Cat network cable? I'm looking for connectivity and not really fussed about the speed unless it's something drastically slow. 2 - if it is possible what are the probable speeds? 3 - any possible limitations with this setup? If this setup is not possible or extremely slow, then I have no problem running the network cable up to the sleepout, except I notice it does get quite windy up here in Akl when the winds do pickup, and the last thing I want is for the network cable to take a beating, so I'd most likely wire it along the side of the deck where it would get some (limited but not full) sheltering from the forces, so then I guess the questions would be: 1 - any suggestions as to how one would string a network cable between 2 buildings? 2 - what are the possible effects that the weather could do to the cable? 3 - has anyone done something like this and just general comments Regards CyberChuck |
cyberchuck (173) | ||
| 192521 | 2003-11-16 22:45:00 | If its been wired for a normal phone, then its likely to be 2 pair non data grade cable, so could be dismal to use as ethernet. Cat 5 has 4 pair, but only 2 are used. So in theory you may have enough conductors with a phone cable. Look here for guidance: core usage in Cat 5 (www.bluemax.net) The slowest speed for a LAN will be 10 Mb/s, but this cable may even fail to connect, you will not know until you try I guess. Given the costs of getting tradesmen back in, it may be worth going to wireless? |
godfather (25) | ||
| 192522 | 2003-11-16 23:58:00 | Thanks for that. I was thinking about wireless as I typed up the thread, although I'm trying to keep costs as low as possible (already have a 30m network cable and the gear for wiring it through walls to terminate at a wall jack), and the last thing I want is some idiot to come up outside the house while I'm at school and try to get into whatever machine is running at the time or piggy back the internet connection and kill whatever bandwidth we have at the moment... On the other hand it'd probably be useful to have a wireless network setup so it means that if others have them I have no hassles with running network cables or anything. |
cyberchuck (173) | ||
| 192523 | 2003-11-17 00:07:00 | Security is relatively easy with wireless. At the minimal level, setting the access point to only connect certain MAC addresses would suffice as each card has a unique address. Keyed encryption is supported on all systems these days. You are right re ease of connecting others. It takes seconds here to give a guest access using wireless. |
godfather (25) | ||
| 192524 | 2003-11-17 01:43:00 | Depending on how far the sleepout is from your house, you could probably run the CAT5 cable yourself. I think it's illegal to run it overhead (although I'm not too sure on that), so you could invest in a bit of conduit (PVC piping) and run it underground or along the deck or whatever you said earlier. That way anyone who tries to tap into your connection would have to saw through a pipe first, and that would be quite an effort. Since you've already got the cable and the equipment, it will probably be cheaper than running a wireless network. However, I can say that I have seen a network cable run from a window of a 2nd storey window, to a building's gutter and down about 30m to another building, and the network on that still runs smoothly. This was CAT5 cabling just run as-is, without conduit or anything. |
somebody (208) | ||
| 192525 | 2003-11-17 01:44:00 | The main concern with overhead wiring is the event of a lighting strike, it could fry your network equipment and possibly your computer. | somebody (208) | ||
| 192526 | 2003-11-17 01:55:00 | there is proper lan adapters for running over telephone cable. however the speed is not great. its proberly easier to run a cat5 over (bury it in the ground if need be). | tweak'e (174) | ||
| 192527 | 2003-11-17 02:26:00 | You could always run it through your Power outlets and get a network going like that ;-) Im agreeing that laying some Cat5 is best bet. I have a 30m DSE Cat6 Cable running outside, no protection on it, but it works just fine :-) Cost me about $35, and I have no regrets about selling my Wireless internet. The speed for Wireless was just not good enough (1/10 speed for my 802.11b connection) and packets would get lost due to the walls being in the way... Hope this helps Chill. |
Chilling_Silently (228) | ||
| 192528 | 2003-11-17 02:54:00 | if you did the ground work (ie digging trench, laying pipe, and feeding cable) any contractor you see in the street would do it as a cashie for about $20 otherwise if you want a proper job where you do the trench work and the contractor provides the cable then you would be looking at about $150 +GST (in AK), that way they provide the guarantee that it would work. We all know that garden hose is waterproof.... | Wayne H (1736) | ||
| 192529 | 2003-11-17 03:51:00 | > We all know that garden hose is waterproof Unless it's leaky garden hose of course :D Here's my stupid suggestion: Just use a dial-up VPN connection from the sleepout to your existing phone line and have the other phone line permanently connected to the internet. You won't have to modify any hardware, and it'll be super-easy (and super-slow) ;) :p |
agent (30) | ||
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