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| Thread ID: 40032 | 2003-11-25 23:23:00 | Off Topic - Ever been pulled over for no apparent reason? | Kame (312) | Press F1 |
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| 194708 | 2003-11-26 04:29:00 | Strange that us old fogies never seem to get pulled over................(g) | TonyF (246) | ||
| 194709 | 2003-11-26 04:33:00 | > Outraged, I wrote to the police department with the > cop's registration number along with all the details > and got a phone call a few days later. They offered > an apology and explanation of what the cop was doing > (transporting "clients" from Timaru to ChCh) and said > that the driver had been spoken to but that was all > that could be done. There was going to be no > punishment, no formal reprimand, no nothing and then > they had the cheek to ask if I was happy with that. > Well, hardly!! The least they could do was sting him > for a large fine to be paid to me as compensation for > the huge fright I got!! It's like the officer who was caught by 2 speed cameras, off duty, who had his fine wiped. Something needs to be done - police officers are supposed to be setting a good example and follow the road rules. "Transporting clients" is not so important as to need to pass in a no-passing area. They should wait. If the "client" was having a heart attack, that's another matter altogether. Anybody volunteer to run for prime minister to fix this mess?? |
somebody (208) | ||
| 194710 | 2003-11-26 04:54:00 | I vote The Terminator (Arnie)... That way police will be equipped with standard issued Grenade Launchers, that'd be good. I too have been cut off by the police, a two way lane, they decided to overtake me (no sirens on at all) so they drove alongside me, and if it wasn't for me slowing down, they would have had a head on collision with the cars coming towards them or taken the front of my car out. Either way I was pissed off that I had got cut off by the police, I get annoyed when cut off by anyone, but the Police just really had me raging then. If I had done that on that straight expect them to pull me over... I would have if I was the police. |
Kame (312) | ||
| 194711 | 2003-11-26 05:06:00 | > police officers are supposed to be setting a good example and follow the road rules. My point exactly, that is what got my feathers so ruffled. It was definitely a case of "do as I say, not as I do". > "Transporting clients" is not so important as to need to pass in a no-passing area. They should wait. I don't know why they had to mention what he was doing (transporting "clients"), but it makes it even more wrong that he broke the law. For one thing his "clients" had broken the law and were being punished but he wasn't. For another thing he totally abused a very responsible position -- he could easily have had an accident and killed all his passengers as well as us and the occupants of any oncoming vehicle. > If the "client" was having a heart attack, that's another matter altogether. No, there was absolutely no excuse at all for what he did. In those road conditions it was totally unforgivable, especially for a police officer. |
Susan B (19) | ||
| 194712 | 2003-11-26 05:07:00 | Ah the joys of dealing with public servants. When somebody comes up with the answer to being treated like this,by people whose wages we pay,let us know. I should mention council staff are worse. |
Thomas (1820) | ||
| 194713 | 2003-11-26 05:40:00 | I made one cop look a complete dickhead the other day. He was into the numbers game and just pulling people up to check rego/warrant and liscence but where he was had yellow no parking lines so I pulled into a drive. Passed the spot about tem minutes later and he was gone. This random pulling over of vehicles gives me the impression of what a police state is like. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 194714 | 2003-11-26 05:48:00 | I always like the, "Have you been drinking?" question from the Police. I always answer, "Yes. Of course I have been drinking. If I didn't I'd probably die." Then go on to explain my 0530 coffee before work, 1000 coffee, 1200 coffee, 1500 coffee, 1700 coffee after dinner and also try to mention the water and orange juice I have had during the day. I need the water and orange juice to wash down the coffee. :-) I like when it gets to Court too where the copper says, " I smelt Alcohol on his breath." Now none of us drinks pure Alcohol ( I hope ). And the last time I had a sniff at PURE Alcohol ( at school ) I coudn't smell a thing. The correct form of question should be, IMHO, "Have you partaken of any alcoholic based beverages in the last <time frame inserted here> You can of course answer this with a yes assuming you aren't over the limit. |
Elephant (599) | ||
| 194715 | 2003-11-26 05:48:00 | gives me the > impression of what a police state is like. Very few of our readers will have experienced a "police state". I guess Wairarapa does not qualify.... |
TonyF (246) | ||
| 194716 | 2003-11-26 05:53:00 | Hmmmm . . . . . he said thoughtfully . Since I respect PF1 members, I have to take these accounts at face value . At the same time I'm having trouble thinking why any police officer would indulge in such pointless and improper behaviour as various people describe . Policemen are subject to the same variation in personality types as the rest of us . Nevertheless they should set a good example . I strongly urge anybody having a doubtful experience to complain . Write to the District Manager . Or to the Police Complaints Authority . And carefully note names and numbers at the time . It is easy to think that you are wasting your time - you are not . Policemen don't like jerks among them any more than the rest of us . Cheers Winston001 |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 194717 | 2003-11-26 06:01:00 | > Any chance that the food you eat can go into a > fermentating process or is the digestive system too > quick? > > Also what is it that they are checking for in your > breath? I mean if it's the contents of what alcohol > is made out of, then how can the test be accurate as > alcohol can be made out of most common items we eat . Hi Kame No, your food doesn't ferment and produce alcohol, at least not sufficiently to figure in the scientific data or defence pleas on blood/breath alcohol charges . When the Police are checking your breath they use one of three processes: Chemical (The crystals that go green in the presence of alcohol) for "blow in the bag" testers . Specific to alcohol but not accepted as evidence in the courts . It is a screening process only and if you fail you go to a Police Station for an evidential breath test or a blood test . Electro-Chemical (A fuel cell that produces an electrical output when alcohol is present) for the Alcotech "sniffer" used for roadside screening . If you fail the sniff, you have to blow into it and it gives a pass/fail result . Again specific to alcohol but still not accepted as evidence in the courts . A failed test moves you on to the Police station or booze bus . Infrared Breath Analysis This is the "blow into the machine" test that prints out an evidential breath test card . The machine passes your breath sample through a heated chamber that has an infrared light source at one end and an infrared detector at the other . In simple terms, there is an optical filter in front of the detector cell that lets through only the wavelength of light corresponding to ethanol (alcohol) . The machine alternates between an filter that does not pass IR light in the ethanol band (to set a "no alcohol" baseline) and the ethanol filter . The difference between the two readings is converted to a breath alcohol reading in micrograms per litre of breath . The youth limit is 150 µg/l (0 . 03 blood) and the adult is 400 µg/l (0 . 08 blood) . The machines test "deep lung" or "alveolar" air where science would have it that there is a direct relationship between the proportion of alcohol (ethanol) on your breath and the proportion of alcohol in your blood . problem is, the proportion varies between individuals and between men and women . The machines currently used in NZ are the French Seres 679T and the American Intoxilyzer 5000 . Neither is fabulously reliable, but the most accurate is the Seres . You can inflate your breath alcohol reading by the way you blow (compresses more molecules of alcohol into the test chamber) or reduce your breath alcohol by hyperventilating before blowing . The latter is not a reliable technique for avoiding conviction, it is better by far to not drink and drive AT ALL . You would not want to trust your license to either of these machines as they can also respond to a range of other substances . Unfortunately the output is considered conclusive and there is no realistic or reliable defence against a positive result . If in doubt, go for the blood test, it won't make matters worse and some subjects return results under the limit . There is much much more to evidential breath testing technology, but this will do for starters Cheers Billy 8-{) [pre][b]Oh yes, forgot to mention, the Intoxilyzer is very hi-tech, it even has a Z80 microprocessor:p |
Billy T (70) | ||
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