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| 195556 | 2003-11-29 11:20:00 | The tasks you require to undertake ie office tasks + internet + MS card games can be EFFICIENTLY carried out by a 100Mhz Pentium or AMD equivalent. I am doing them all on a 266 AMD K6. You DO need to keep the system clean and efficient. but given that, there is no way you can keep up manually with the perfomance of the CPU, unless you are using software that requies higher specs. According to an opinion on National Radio(interview today) After WW11 the Americans decieded that the ONLY way to keep the economy going was to promote CONSPICOUS CONSUMPTION (ie my (car,. computer, house etc) is bigger, better, "has more horsepower than yours)( buy a newer, better one", etc) to the effect that 20% of the world population are using 80% of the worlds resources. Don't go there, unless you need to! Who ACTUALLY needs a 3.?Mhz P4?. not many! |
Rod ger (316) | ||
| 195557 | 2003-11-29 12:00:00 | What is the point of this thread? You say in your first post that you it's not an "Intel vs AMD" thread and that you "prefer P4" So why compare AMD and Intel form factor motherboards? If you want a P4 you are only going to be looking at Intel motherboards surely? ?:| |
whiskeytangofoxtrot (438) | ||
| 195558 | 2003-11-29 12:35:00 | And there i was thinking you were the master at understanding peoples posts... Anyway,as i read it....He says that he wants advice on a cpu and that while he understands the p4 is considered the superior chip due to budget constraints he would be looking at either a celeron or amd cpu,So the question would be,which out of these 2 chips would we/us/anyone recommmend. |
metla (154) | ||
| 195559 | 2003-11-29 20:04:00 | celeron is fast. the reason many people think it is slow is because it is a budget processor. and many budget pcs come with skimp ram. no matter how fast a processor is ram will always bring the computer down. ummm...by the way, celeron cache is 128k. that is why it is buget. | Megaman (344) | ||
| 195560 | 2003-11-29 20:24:00 | > The tasks you require to undertake ie office tasks + > internet + MS card games can be EFFICIENTLY carried > out by a 100Mhz Pentium or AMD equivalent. I am doing > them all on a 266 AMD K6. You DO need to keep the > system clean and efficient. but given that, there is > no way you can keep up manually with the perfomance > of the CPU, unless you are using software that > requies higher specs. > According to an opinion on National Radio(interview > today) After WW11 the Americans decieded that the > ONLY way to keep the economy going was to promote > CONSPICOUS CONSUMPTION (ie my (car,. computer, house > etc) is bigger, better, "has more horsepower than > yours)( buy a newer, better one", etc) to the effect > that 20% of the world population are using 80% of the > worlds resources. Don't go there, unless you need to! > Who ACTUALLY needs a 3.?Mhz P4?. not many! Yes, been told all that... I take Economics at school (sometimes said as the study of resources ;-)) Infact, I have many computers, P75, P100, P200, P200, P3 600, P3 700. Trust me, I can not afford to do homework on anything below my P3 600. Time is money :p. On my P200, it takes sooooo long to load.... has problems reacting to mouse, let alone the keyboard! Yes, that's right, at the moment it seems that we don't need a P4 3.4Ghz, however, you will need it as time comes when softwares get more complicated.... It's still good to have one :p Cheers, |
~~~~~ s y ~~~~~ (2054) | ||
| 195561 | 2003-11-29 20:28:00 | > And there i was thinking you were the master at > understanding peoples posts... > > Anyway,as i read it....He says that he wants advice > on a cpu and that while he understands the p4 is > considered the superior chip due to budget > constraints he would be looking at either a celeron > or amd cpu,So the question would be,which out of > these 2 chips would we/us/anyone recommmend. > Thanks melta for explaining, yes, exactly what I meant :D Ok, so if I get a onboard nForce2 graphic and want to say, 64mb graphic, and I had a 256DDR Ram... so, would I allocate 64mb to graphic, with 192Mb left for normal operation? However, if I get a proper graphics card, I don't have to worry about this... am I right? Many thanks, |
~~~~~ s y ~~~~~ (2054) | ||
| 195562 | 2003-11-29 21:42:00 | What OS and specific software will you be running. I have an 1800 xp and 512MB DDR ram on an Asus nForce board which only gives me 32MB of graphics. Its absolutely fine for most everything except the newer graphics intensive games. Its main task is to run win 2k, MSoffice, Photoshop Elements, browser and email. The only time it is realy put to work is when using Elements or Word with lots of graphics (thats more the apps limitations than the hardware). Other consideration will be the type of cards and periferals you will be running, how many cpu cycles and memerory do they require (their tasks require). More graphics than 32MB for me, would be better but, not essential. Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 195563 | 2003-11-29 21:59:00 | I will only be running the basic, i.e. Windows XP Pro (and others, when it comes out), Office XP (maybe 2003 later) along with Messenger, ICQ, ZoneAlarm and the basics....... may install PhotoShop if I get a digital camera. Cheers, |
~~~~~ s y ~~~~~ (2054) | ||
| 195564 | 2003-11-29 22:10:00 | > celeron is fast. the reason many people think it is > slow is because it is a budget processor. and many > budget pcs come with skimp ram. no matter how fast a > processor is ram will always bring the computer down. > ummm...by the way, celeron cache is 128k. that is why > it is buget. it depends on the program used. the lack of cache is what really slows down its performance. for basic apps you won't notice a lot of difference. as far as p4 vers atho goes it often comes down to price vers speed of the CPU AND MOTHERBOARD. there is very little piont in buy a good cpu and go and use a cheap and nasty motherboard. its really the motherboard which dictates what cpu you are going to use. suz out the mobo first and what you want out of the system (eg performance/reliability) |
tweak'e (174) | ||
| 195565 | 2003-11-29 22:36:00 | Sy, as tweak'e says, once you have decided on the cpu, do some research on boards for that, compare features (for your needs) check out reviews on the board and chipset. Get a good board which allows you to expand (eg, agp slot with onboard gfx) or upgrade if your needs change. I've learnt the hard way with regard to spending my $$ on a cheap board then being shackled by its limitations and wishing I had spent $20-30 more. Hence, I now stick to what are considered mainstream brands with good reputaions. If you want to tweak it that will also be a consideration of the board as much as the cpu but, for what you will be using it for, I don't see a need for tweaking and if you don't like losing your data, don't. Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
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