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| Thread ID: 40213 | 2003-12-01 23:23:00 | Let down again by PC World | JJJJJ (528) | Press F1 |
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| 196303 | 2003-12-02 21:44:00 | Oh yes Godfather. But how did you manage before they cam along? I worked for 50 years without a cell phone. I managed with an R/T in my car. Which was turned off unless I wanted to use it. Though of course I agree it has it's uses, but only because people (customers) expect them. They managed quite well in the past. Jack |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
| 196304 | 2003-12-02 21:58:00 | > > I think cell phones would qualify as the most > useless invention of the > 20th century. > > Without the so called useless cell phones, one > couldn't call anyone for help in an emergency, Eg. > car breaks down, trapped in the mountain? > Folk also need to use a bit of common dog. How many folk go into the mountains unprepared now because they know help is only a cellphone call away? |
mark.p (383) | ||
| 196305 | 2003-12-02 22:06:00 | cellphones are the greatest invention made...otherwise i;d be never going anywhere..am deaf and its become one of my main sources of communication... if there was no cellphone i dont think i'd ever leave the computer... ppl just need to learn a bit of commons sense with it... like u said..take it on the mountian.. or drive without talking or get a handsfree... |
csinclair83 (200) | ||
| 196306 | 2003-12-02 22:21:00 | I agree with JJJJJJJJJJJ. What gets me is the endless product reviews take up about half each edition. Tweleve differnet printers this time, 12 different cameras next time. I'd rather see more feature articles like stuff on the nuts and bolts of computing not just this week's dazzling gadget. But hey advertising all that stuff must be the biggie that pays the rent. I wonder what proportion of income for the mag comes from sales/advertising/promos? :D |
mark c (247) | ||
| 196307 | 2003-12-02 22:38:00 | > Oh yes Godfather. But how did you manage before they > cam along? > I worked for 50 years without a cell phone. I managed > with an R/T in my car. Which was turned off unless I > wanted to use it. > Though of course I agree it has it's uses, but only > because people (customers) expect them. They managed > quite well in the past. > Jack This reminds me of the old adage: "Guns don't kill people. People Kill People." Cellphones aren't intrinsically useless, but people find rather unnecessary uses for them. As for the argument: "we managed quite well before" - if it weren't for people looking for newer, more efficient, and sometimes better ways to do things, we would have very little progress in society. Horses were fine, but I presume you drive a car, or in some way rely on the internal combustion engine for transportation? Just because we never needed something prior to now is no argument against their useful implementation today. The same applies for cellphones. They can be useful, but in the same way that the internal combustion engine allows us to save lives (ambulances, etc), they can be great distractions and timewasters (motorsport, and correspondingly for cellphones - faceplates and personalised ringtones). Lizard |
Lizard (2409) | ||
| 196308 | 2003-12-02 22:44:00 | Lizard you forgot games and hours spent texting ;). | mark.p (383) | ||
| 196309 | 2003-12-02 23:08:00 | > Lizard you forgot games and hours spent texting ;). Too true :D Can't understand why people shell out $1000 for a phone that's going to sell for $500 in three months time to play games that are so simple and cheesy they wouldn't deign to play them on their PCs... Fashion, I suppose. However, texting can be useful, when used as an aid to communication (e.g. for the hard of hearing). Cyber-flirting, as so many kids seem to use texting for, is perhaps stretching it a bit. However, a text home to say that you've arrived at your destination is worthwile. |
Lizard (2409) | ||
| 196310 | 2003-12-02 23:14:00 | >"we managed quite well before" - if it weren't for people looking for >newer, more efficient, and sometimes better ways to do things, we >would have very little progress in society. Totally agreed :) we won't be in PressF1 coz there will be no internet, no computers as those people back then lived well without it... I use bluetooth on my cell phone so that my pda can access internet through it using GPRS. Without the cell phone, I no longer can check important emails, browse the net if I'm outside. |
SKT174 (1319) | ||
| 196311 | 2003-12-02 23:38:00 | Cellphones, ay! They are both a curse and an essential business item, now. How we used to get on without them was (for those of us out and about, juggling projects); We were forced to organise our days, weeks, months, keep to our (planned) programs or update them with more attention to detail (critical path), you made sure your resources were all ready to go at the critical times for implemtation on the job at hand and everyone was informed and knew in advance what was going on. You made sure there were good people on the ground who could smooth out the wrinkles and had the knowledge to act alone to an extent. You went home at the end of the day and generally, apart from what filled your head, your days work was done, or if you were fortunate enough to be running a business, you went home and did paper work till the wee hours. With cellphones; Planning seems to be done more on the fly, more crisis management than programming. With a headset your vehical becomes an extension of the office and one person can now manage what it took several people to do. The minutae, decisions that were once handled by the good people on the ground are now just a ph call away so you don't need to pay good skilled people anymore (apparently). Nobody seems to make decisions now without making a call first and passing the responsibility along. The expectation is that, you're always available, people seem to consider it appropriate to call a cellphone out of hours when they may think twice about calling your private land line. You cannot hide "I couldn't contact you, where were you", "bad coverage" means, it's bad manners to be talking on and having people ring you on the cellphone while on the golf course or, while interviewing a prospective employer over lunch. On the upside, you can contact the right people, get the right info and make decisions very quickly without having to put things on hold while you return to the office. Unforseen issues can be aknowledged and dealt with before they become a crisis (read, cost $$). The mottled purple colour your bosses face goes when he reads the cellphone Co's statement with $1,200.00 worth of voice calls over and above your free minutes is, a sight to behold and the whine in their voice before it reaches a crescendo is something to treasure. And following on from the previous sentence, you can communicate with clients and conduct business seamlessly from your small office/home office without having to have the trappings of a larger business. Love them or hate them, cellphones and their cousins are now embedded in our way of life, even if you don't use one. Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 196312 | 2003-12-02 23:44:00 | Has the advance of technology made us more mobile or more lazy? | csinclair83 (200) | ||
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