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Thread ID: 40559	2003-12-11 04:09:00	OT: Helping People with Disablities and the Law/Policy of it	csinclair83 (200)	Press F1

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199415	2003-12-11 04:09:00	I been looking on google but not having much luck, I just wanna know what the law or policy of ALL NZ polytech/unis are towards helping people with disablities, like do they HAVE to provide a interpreter for Deaf, or do they HAVE to provide a notetaker if someone has no arms? and so on...or do they HAVE to try and provide something that the costs can be reasonable for etc? I dont want something thats 'specific' to each place, but something in general that covers everywhere... Hope you peeps get my message as I dont think i am explaining this well... Cheers	csinclair83 (200)
199416	2003-12-11 04:14:00	I havent read it but this looks like the info your after. www.adhd.org.nz	metla (154)
199417	2003-12-11 04:20:00	hmmm thats good info there... i'll explain the situation here but wont be naming names a guy i know wants to attend polytech and hes deaf like me and he has got approved place on the course which i think is great but the classes are 9am to 3pm each day (like a normal school day) with classes from 9am to 10:30 then 11 to 1 then 1:30 to 3....and some days there are no classes between 10:30 and 1 so yeah..(friday is only classes till 1pm) and they are saying they cannot provide a interpreter for the WHOLE day every day as costs are too high... is that discrimination or just saying they cannot provide equal education as they cant afford it? and what is this student entitled to? full education with no barriers or anything?	csinclair83 (200)
199418	2003-12-11 04:33:00	Isn't there a Disabilities Commissioners office? I imagine that your friend could apply for some sort of education grant from the Ministry of Education or similar. I also would have thought that the institution that your friend has been accepted at could/should have supplied all the relevant info on such matters. Cheers Murray P	Murray P (44)
199419	2003-12-11 04:38:00	they say they will provide a interpreter but wont be every class every day....and he wants one to be there every class..... and what wuld the disablitites commissioners office do? or can do to help?	csinclair83 (200)
199420	2003-12-11 04:42:00	It's not discrimination. :D You're entitled to your free education if you can afford it. ;-) I'm sure they would like to provide an interpreter. But it might easily cost the places for two or three other students. Interpreters don't come cheaply. And whatever the gobblement say about a knowledge economy, all education sectors are starved of money. They are not helped by the rubbish management theories which are making teachers into form-fillers first. Agitate for 5c/litre on petrol to go to education instead of funnelling more cars into Auckland's central congestion district. :D	Graham L (2)
199421	2003-12-11 04:47:00	but we are entitled to education regardless our status...white black asian, deaf, blind... hes using a student loan for the course so thats done... well if it costs the place of 2-3 students then get another 2-3 students on top of what they have now.. wont hurt them a lil bit as they can regather it over time i'm sure... but seriously...what is he to do when hes in a class with no interpreter or support? how is he supposed to learn? i told him to not confirm the enrolment till he knows what hes getting and hes emailed the person organising it to ask what the status is on the organisation of getting one for him...	csinclair83 (200)
199422	2003-12-11 04:54:00	The fees you pay don't cover the costs of the course. The instituition gets a payment from the taxpayer for each "Full Time Effective Student". One deaf student with a full time interpreter would mop up quite a few of those payments. I'm not saying this is a good thing, but ...	Graham L (2)
199423	2003-12-11 04:56:00	> they say they will provide a interpreter but wont be > every class every day....and he wants one to be there > every class..... Exactly, a grant, if one can be got, may cover the shortfall. > and what wuld the disablitites commissioners office > do? or can do to help? That I do not know. Your friend may have to contact them to find out. But my guess is advice, at least. GL, if the so & so's hadn't been dipping their dirty snouts into the national roads fund all these years for the general fund then the roads would not be in the state of disrepair and chaos they are in now. Now they have the gall to propose (fait accompli) that 5c goes on top to bail out Auckland's mess. Criminals. Cheers Murray P 1 I must learn not to rant so often, I must learn not to rant so often, I must learn not to rant so often, I must learn not to rant so often, I must learn not to rant so often, I must learn not to rant so often......99........I must learn not to rant so often	Murray P (44)
199424	2003-12-11 04:59:00	what about all the students at uni who have them? they get them no questions asked.... but when it comes to polytech then theres "oh too expensive" or "oh its all day we cant do that"... i know uni students pay more but thats not the point its getting equal education... if i was hearing or he was, this discussion wuldnt have even need to happen...he would have just got his books, confirmed enrolment, and attended class.. but being deaf we got to have the hassle of worrying..will we or will we not have a interpreter to give us access to equal education....	csinclair83 (200)
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