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Thread ID: 40559	2003-12-11 04:09:00	OT: Helping People with Disablities and the Law/Policy of it	csinclair83 (200)	Press F1

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199425	2003-12-11 05:25:00	Chris, I would imagine the Deaf Association http://www.deaf.co.nz/ would know the funding and rights issues. Your point is very valid, and it may just be you need to find the right mechanism to access the funding. Its in the countries best interest to invest in the service at this level, to make sure that the person is able to lead a productive life.	godfather (25)
199426	2003-12-11 07:13:00	its actually the deaf association thats arranging it with the polytech....and its them thats saying he cannot have a interpreter full day full time, and its the tech thats saying they cannot afford that...	csinclair83 (200)
199427	2003-12-11 07:39:00	OK, that explains that bit. Now, its time for a polite, informative letter to your local MP, asking what the Government policy is.	godfather (25)
199428	2003-12-11 08:27:00	Costs are definitely the problem. I am sure that at a personal level staff at both organisations would love to say "here go for any course and we will provide an interpreter 100% of the time", but the reality is there is a) not enough interpreters and b) not enough money. Both will take a long time to rectify. We are definitely a long way behind places like Gallaudet (www.gallaudet.edu) but the fact is we dont have the resources here to ever get to that level. This month a bill will be introduced into the House that will start the process of making NZ Sign Language the third official language in NZ but that will not occur until 2005. This will definitely give this situation the status that is needed to ensure that an intepreter is available at all times. Cold comfort for your friends situation now but the only thing I can think to do now is to keep pushing, it may not happen immediately but with NZSL soon to become an official language then use that arguement for your fight. good luck sam m	sam m (517)
199429	2003-12-11 09:10:00	theres not enough interpreters coz the pay aint that good i'm sure... yeah galleaudet mmmm, how did u know about that by the way? I think my friend is actually admitting defeat, or hes gonna threaten to pull out of the course and take them somewhere for unequal access to education... (he cant stay on the course and take them to court as hes doing it on a student loan and yeah they dont refund that if u pull out after 2 or 3 weeks) but for now hes emailed the ppl and see whats happening and stuff and go from there... I thought the bill was introduced a few months back or something...but at least its finally getting somewhere...	csinclair83 (200)
199430	2003-12-11 10:27:00	> theres not enough interpreters coz the pay aint that > good i'm sure... Nope, there is not enough interpreters evenly distributed around NZ. I am one of 3 qualified in the Waikato. I know there are plenty in Akl but they are all committed to education. If your friend was keen enough he could try manukau, aut or unitech as some fellow interpreters work full time there. Maybe you should contact the disability co-ordinator in those institutions as they must have obtained funding from somewhere. I have heard of interpreters being contracted to a polytech for a year on year basis to service Deaf clients wanting to attend. > > yeah galleaudet mmmm, how did u know about that by > the way? i know of people that have attended or visited there. if i ever was fortuate enough to go to the states then that would be on my MUST visit places. > but for now hes emailed the ppl and see whats > happening and stuff and go from there... What polytech is he going to? I suspect that costs would be even more if he is in an area where there are no local interpreters as you would need to add travel to the equation as well and that gets expensive. > I thought the bill was introduced a few months back > or something...but at least its finally getting > somewhere... It has been a long haul. It was announced last month or so but the bill needs to be introduced then passed etc which they predict will be 2005. At that time there will be legislation that they must provide an interpreter but.............cost and availability will always be a problem. I think that even when it is passed that we will still have a problem, I hope that I am wrong. sam m	sam m (517)
199431	2003-12-11 22:15:00	ok silly question time . what exactly do these interprters do? do they sign to you what is going on? or type up what is said ? i got offered one for my studies, but i dont know sign and am only hearing impaired, (eventually wil deaf) and am now wondering how they would have helped me? i lip read a awful lot, and am lucky we have a small lecture room with minimal outside interfernce and noise . i am at Uni so different scenario i guess . they did offer me more reading material and paper guidence to cover the lectures . and a interprter . but felt i was not in major need of it, not realising it would have meant someone in a very real need may have missed out on the opportunity of help . at the moment i am ploughing along fine, i find my fellow class mates a help, for when i miss a point,but am lucky enough to catch most of it, so even though im hearing impaired am not sure of the protocol of this practice of having a interpreter in class with me . . . . . phone calls are the bain of my life . sorry to butt in here Chris, but interested for my futures needs possibly . beetle	beetle (243)
199432	2003-12-11 22:43:00	Hey ya, Get your friend to apply for Work Bridge, he will get $16,000 a year, that would helps to pay for Interpreter, notetakers etc. If his University where ever he going to, have support office for Deaf and Disablities, they should provide interpreter for him. Good Luck	pisceskiwi (1303)
199433	2003-12-11 23:39:00	> what exactly do these interprters do? An qualified NZSL interpreter translates what is being spoken, into NZ Sign Language . NZSL is a language with its own grammar, syntax etc . . . i . e . what's spoken is not translated 'word for word' . Same goes for when a Deaf person is signing, and the interpreter voices what's being signed - its not 'word for word' . > do they sign to you what is going on? or type up what > is said ? They sign - hence being called an 'interpreter' not a 'notetaker' :) > i got offered one for my studies, but i dont know > sign and am only hearing impaired, (eventually wil > deaf) and am now wondering how they would have > helped me? It probably would not have helped you, since you don't know any Sign Language . A notetaker would have been more useful for you . > i am at Uni so different scenario i guess . My friends at University are all provided with an interpreter for all their classes, and in some cases a notetaker as well . > they did > offer me more reading material and paper guidence to > cover the lectures . and a interprter . but felt i was > not in major need of it, not realising it would have > meant someone in a very real need may have missed out > on the opportunity of help . I would have taken up on the offer of extra paper materials to make sure I was at the same pace as the rest of the students . That happened to me in school - always offered extra material for me to read and keep up etc . And as you said, you don't know sign language, so it would have been more stress to you to learn Sign Language as well as learn the stuff in your course . Hope this is of useful information, if you want to know more, ask away . Caffy	caffy (2665)
199434	2003-12-11 23:55:00	http://www.hdc.org.nz/ just a bit off topic here - how has this thread become so wide (having to scroll left/right all the time)?	somebody (208)
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