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Thread ID: 40550 2003-12-11 02:21:00 Weather's Heating up......So's My PC! cold_fu5ion (3438) Press F1
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199357 2003-12-11 05:39:00 First off, thanks for the replies.
The motherboard is a soltek one. Underload (is encoding divx load?) the processor temp is around 45 and the anti burn sheild is at about 77-78 degrees (just below the cut off point I think) but that is with my HSF turned right up as far as it will go. I too have lost faith in thermaltake, and I don't want to try to take my heatsink off because I was told to be very carful putting it on (which i was) and the thought of taking that big chunk of Al off is daunting (cant afford a new processor!)
Would it be worth it to get a 120mm fan + an adaptor to replace the noisy HSF?
I'm not too worried about the temperature as it seems ok, but tht noise of the thermaltake fan is insane!
cold_fu5ion (3438)
199358 2003-12-11 05:50:00 Get another 80mm fan, the thermaltake ones are too damn loud. I lasted 5 weeks before replacing mine.

Why not try swapping it with one of your case fans if they are fast enough. I replaced the one on my volcano 11 with a 2000rpm, 22cfm fan (equivilant to the TT fan @ 1600rpm) and its much quieter.
bmason (508)
199359 2003-12-11 05:50:00 Why would it be hard to get off. You didn't use epoxy did you? If the clips causing the problem, can you cut it?

One thing about getting the noise out of the system is to get a more efficient HS so the fan doesn't have to be blowing a hurricane to keep things cool. eg, Copper coolers like the Zalman or the Thermalright mentioned above will only need minimal assistance from your fan to keep the cpu cool, you could then concentrate on the motherboard as thats what the anti-burn is measuring afaik, it stops the board going down with the cpu when things get nasty (must dig out my old Soltek manual).

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
199360 2003-12-11 06:06:00 my experienced (and professional - I'm one of the few NZ reviewers of cooling gear) opinion is that the Tt clip is very weak in the first place, so it shouldnt be too much of a problem to get the heatsink off.. get a suitable flathead screwdriver and push it into the drivermount on the socketstep side of the clip. Push down gently and then pop it out off the lugs.. unplug the fan and remove the heatsink.. voila

Clean up the cpu, apply some fresh paste and install your new heatsink of choice. It may pay to get a universal shim at this point

It may sound easier said than done but socketA cpu's are surprisingly forgiving. Just take your time and you wont have any problems.

(disclaimer: I accept no responsibility for component death due to you making a mistake as a result of my advice... I do reserve the right to laugh at any related misfortunes though...) ;)
whetu (237)
199361 2003-12-11 06:20:00 Cheers whetu!
I'll replace the HSF with a spare 80mm case fan before I splurge out on a new heatsink. The reason that I didnt want to take it off was becasue it seemed so damm hard to get on!
Any advice on which heatsink to get if I decide to go down that path?
And where can I get a shim form (in Auckland)?
Also......Can I please get that data sheet off you Murray P?
cold_fu5ion (3438)
199362 2003-12-11 06:58:00 I'll have a hunt for it . It's buried somwhere on another pc in the house that has changed a bit since I was using it .

As before, go for a good copper cooler . More attention has turned to heatsinks in the last year or so rather than pumping as much air as possible on to the cpu . The reason I like the Zalma CNPS coolers is because the fan is independent of the HS . I'm running one with the fan directed onto the video card not the cpu but the cpu stays cool as . And thats with it tucked under the PSU on a micro atx board (had to bend the HS fins to fit it in) plus the cpu is mildly clocked .

Zalman ( . zalman . co . kr/english/product/product . htm" target="_blank">www . zalman . co . kr) go with the all copper ones .

On here ( . theddrzone . com/?id=50&page=intro" target="_blank">www . theddrzone . com) somewheer, are instructions to run your fans at 5 or 7v so they run slower and queter . Handy if you you don't want to buy fan speed controllers .

Ah ha! Found a link ( . hccnet . nl/hcc . akkerman/fans80-120 . htm" target="_blank">home . hccnet . nl) to that speadsheet . Looks a bit nicer than when I last saw it and it now has links to manufacturers sites .

Hop over to OCNZ . co . nz for info on cooling but baer in mind alot of these guys are cooling for different reasons to you .

And best of all, ask whetu .

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
199363 2003-12-11 07:11:00 Cripes! That speadsheet ain't exactly the same. The one I hade had the CFM and dBA per 5, 7 & 12 volt. Some fans drop the dBA more than others when you drop the spped back with a voltage mod. I'll have a hunt for the saved one I have.

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
199364 2003-12-11 08:35:00 Ok, so I slapped a new 80mm fan on my heatsink, booted up (jammed my fingen in the fan :)) and it seems to be running the ok. ABS is a little high, but it is really hot atm and i have the windows closed, the processor is running at 44 degrees. I still would like to put a 120mm fan on there tho......
The noise difference is amazing! I only wish that I had done this sooner. Anyway if things get too hot I'll look at getting a new heatsink, maybe a blowhole.....or........could go on forever :)

Thanks for all your help.
cold_fu5ion (3438)
199365 2003-12-11 08:54:00 > www.dse.co.nz
> ac91a2740c0a87f990731/Product/View/XH5088
>
> This worked well in my machine. Sucks all the hot
> air out :)

Thanks for the information on that PCI fan I have seen them in DSE and wondered if they worked well. Looking firther on the web, they seem to be a pretty effective and quiet cooler. I may have to invest $17 :)

The URL you posted went to the DSE storefront page, here (dse.resultspage.com 716&site=&w=XH5088) is a link that worked for me.

J
:D
Jester (13)
199366 2003-12-11 11:52:00 if you want flat out silence, go with zalman gear.. if you want a level of silence a couple notches higher then look at some Alpha, Swiftech and/or Thermalright gear.. they're the big three right now as far as I'm concerned...

If you want the best bang for the buck silence/performance ratio right now get an AMD Barton 2500+ stock HSF

You dont need to go all copper - all copper tends to be heavy (not that a PAL8045 is much better!) and outside the specifications of the socket A standard, at the very least get something with a copper slug or base.

When considering a new HSF, avoid places like THG that are prone to bias and pay-offs, stick to places that use consistent testing methodologies such as Dansdata and FrostyTech. I am currently working on building my own CPU Simulator so that I too can join the precious few cooling reviewers with a slice of credibility (it will also help my waterblock mate design better blocks :D ) That and the website I write for (radiativenz.com) is going through an interface upgrade process right now so reviews are at a slower than normal pace

As for the shim, OCNZ or any dealer that sells OCNZ gear (stylespc.com, novapcpower.com, ascent) should sell the universal shim... you might even be able to pick up one at harvey normals.. but that would be supporting australia and not us :D
whetu (237)
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