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Thread ID: 40669 2003-12-14 09:31:00 y do business people want really fast internet Hiren (3722) Press F1
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200446 2003-12-14 21:59:00 It also has to do with what else you're downloading at the time, and if you're using something else that's Maxing out your connection...

Kame's right AFAIK, that ping is the Time taken to get from one host to another (and back?), and speed has no impact on this.

When I had Wireless LAN, my ping (1mbps) was < 3ms
Now I'm back to 10/100 LAN and Im still getting same results coz its still travelling just as far :-)
Chilling_Silently (228)
200447 2003-12-14 22:20:00 Yes, If you understand the Ping command, basically it sends out data (specified packet size) to the server you choose, and the server sends a reply back. The magic is all done within the program that works out the time it took for that data to be sent and the reply that you got back in ms. With firewalls in place or server is down, it takes longer for the reply and times out, which may mean it's <999ms or whatever the timeout time is, that's why pinging may seem to take forever with some servers. Kame (312)
200448 2003-12-14 22:23:00 Which is all nice and well but people on 56k lag the stink out of Multiplayer games. metla (154)
200449 2003-12-14 22:29:00 That's usually because there's too much data being sent at once.

Its not to say that on a 128kbps connection its being maxed out, but more that when data needs to come down at 128kbps, it can!
Chilling_Silently (228)
200450 2003-12-14 23:15:00 Yeah Ditto with the Land-Online. Not just titles, but survey and title plans, survey data, spatial plots, and lodgement of survey data in LandXML format - all lots of MB's, not to mention the actual amount of data transferred just to access the application as it is all run from the sever end with just an ICA client on the users machine.

Secondly sending plans and drawings to clients, sending and receiving 3D models from architects etc (Many, many, many MB). Sending graphics to advertisers etc.

Graphic designers, web designers, people involved in eCommerce, online trading, film and tv industry all need to send large files via email or internet.

G P
Graham Petrie (449)
200451 2003-12-15 08:55:00 If the files are important, you'd expect a Virtual Private Network (VPN) in place, which also would be a reason for fast internet.

If you look at some of the companies I've worked for, I noticed that they are national with franchises all over the place, for instance a supplier is in the South Island, but has an Office up in Auckland. The sales rep for the Auckland Office has a laptop that can get data from the stockist in the South Island and you wouldn't want slow internet for this communication to take place, you would want instant answers as the less time you spend finding out whether they have the items at their warehouse, they can be doing more sales.

Time is money in business and the less you spend getting the answers the more you can spend getting sales.
Kame (312)
200452 2003-12-15 09:20:00 > Greg S, you'll have to back up your information on
> gaming, as that is not the case. Fast internet, high
> bandwidth does not give you a better ping.

Well no way am I a network expert - but the following is absolutely true:

Playing on a certain server with 4Mb/s (up) adsl I used to get 100 - 150 m/s pings.
Using 128k adsl I get 150 - 200 pings.
Some of my colleagues who use dial-up consistently report 250 - 350 pings.

This has been noticed over a period of over several months. So if broadband Internet doesn't affect ping times, how do you explain this? I can't see how it has anything to do with hops because it's a single hop to the server, ie a direct connection.

>you can still end up with a worse ping than someone who's on 56K

That cannot possibly be right - all things being equal, broadband will beat dialup.
Greg S (201)
200453 2003-12-15 09:34:00 Networking isn't my strong point either,99% percent of the online gaming ive done was motocross madness2 (and i was a legend i tell ya...ha) played thru Microsofts Zone, The zone would sort everyone sitting in the lobby by ping,and you could tell the speed of there internet feed by the order they were on the list.

And there was allways a clear distiction as far as ping goes between the high speed users and the dail-ups.
metla (154)
200454 2003-12-15 09:42:00 > Graphic designers, web designers, people involved in
> eCommerce, online trading, film and tv industry all
> need to send large files via email or internet.

I have to agree with you their, been a website designer, I have download a few large e-mails & a few large websites website files etc...
stu140103 (137)
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