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202346	2003-12-24 21:46:00	It is funny how people like to bash things they haven't used before. Mac kids bash MS clones and MS clones bash Mac kids. All the while Linux junkies stand on the sidelines like a bunch of hippies and bemoan both of them for buying into false corporate ideals. I have extensive experience with MS, OS X and Linux. At present I am running a couple of Linux servers, a BSD firewall, a Windows workstation and an Apple iBook (along with a shiny iPod). I have to say they all have their pros and cons. If you are after a cheap and no fuss workstation then Windows wins hands down. Piece together any hardware, drop in the OS, install that pile of pirated software that everyone has and you are away for less than $1000. Sure it crashes and has as much class and a group of West Aucklander’s in a Takapuna café but it’s cheap and it works. For the more experienced Linux is great. Do you want a webserver? Power desktop? Multi-processor, hardware redundant database? No problem one distro can do all that, but getting everything to work just right can take a while. The number of times I’ve had to recompile a kernel just to get some obscure network card or onboard graphics chipset working just isn’t worth thinking about. But once you get past that what you have a very stable, maintenance-free platform. If you are not a penny pincher, power hungry games fanatic or large-scale corporate buyer then Apple’s OS X is a winner. As has been said before it’s a complete package. My cellphone, iPod and iBook all sink perfectly via Bluetooth and Firewire (try doing that with MS/Linux). Sure you are limited to a fairly tight range of products but if you can afford a Mac then shelling out an extra $100 for the Cannon digital camera rather than that no-name Chinese model isn’t a problem. Yes OS 8 & 9 weren’t very good compared to Windows XP, that’s something even Apple acknowledges and has more than rectified with OS X. Who wins? The consumer (yes that old cliché). It would be a sad world if Apple or open-source alternatives like Linux did not exist. Sure MS’s mainstream acceptance has been good for the industry, but just like West Auckland it is a nice place to visit, but I am glad I don’t live there. Merry Christmas.	paintbuoy (3087)
202347	2003-12-25 00:48:00	> You've all been brainwashed by Microsoft. you've been brainwashed by apple > Gregs PC is boring. if yours is so wonderful, give us a pic of your computer > Can't say much for mine > though. Look at the G4! Nice chrome cd drive covers > covering it.... doesn't even look like there is a CD > drive. The G5 has just a rectangular thing for the > CD drive. > > BTW we aretalking about the latest and greatest here. > No MacOS 8 or 9. > > I don't see gregs CDdrive stealthed. And we didn't > see his GUI did we? Windows XP? Eye-candy-my-arse! when you give us a picture of your computer, give us a screenshot as well > People have got to be less Microsoft minded because > Microsoft, indeed, will take over our lives... > telling us what we can and can't do with their DRM > and paladium ****! They're even putting MS OS's IN > CARS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD... The brakes software is > updated wirelessly. I wouldn't trust my cars brakes > to Microsoft. > > Next they'll be limiting where we can drive. > > I'm sick of multi-billion corporations telling me > what I can and can't do! then ditch apple and move to linux > > As far as I know Apple=Boredom	Megaman (344)
202348	2003-12-25 01:14:00	> when you give us a picture of your computer, give us > a screenshot as well Mine's here (www.zu.co.nz)	Greg S (201)
202349	2003-12-25 03:20:00	> Also - I wonder how many Macs can run Linux as an > option > Come on Greg, why would you want to bother? With something as stable as OS-X there would be no point	Baldy (26)
202350	2003-12-25 03:43:00	Baldy> Isnt Mac OS X based on Unix for at least some part of it?? paintbuoy> Excellent post there, Very well said!! I coudnt agree more!	Chilling_Silently (228)
202351	2003-12-25 03:53:00	> You've all been brainwashed by Microsoft . > > Don't you ever listen to coldfusion . XP IS GONNA > COME AND TAKE OVER YOUR LIFE . Don't touch it with a > 10 foot ps2 usb adaptor barge pole! > > Gregs PC is boring . Can't say much for mine > though . Look at the G4! Nice chrome cd drive covers > covering it . . . . doesn't even look like there is a CD > drive . The G5 has just a rectangular thing for the > CD drive . > > BTW we aretalking about the latest and greatest here . > No MacOS 8 or 9 . > > I don't see gregs CDdrive stealthed . And we didn't > see his GUI did we? Windows XP? Eye-candy-my-arse! > > People have got to be less Microsoft minded because > Microsoft, indeed, will take over our lives . . . > telling us what we can and can't do with their DRM > and paladium ****! They're even putting MS OS's IN > CARS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD . . . The brakes software is > updated wirelessly . I wouldn't trust my cars brakes > to Microsoft . > > Next they'll be limiting where we can drive . > > I'm sick of multi-billion corporations telling me > what I can and can't do! > > As far as I know Apple=Freedom gee . . . get back into your coffin dracula	Megaman (344)
202352	2003-12-25 07:30:00	> Gregs PC is boring . Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, remember? ;-) The long-term members of this forum will be well aware of my love affair with pretty PCs and how I was going to build one for myself . In the end however, practicality won out and I never did get a case with a window and pretty lights . What I did get was a good solid machine that does all that I want it to do and will serve me well for a good many years yet, including all the upgrades I might desire to have . And even if it is very plain it still looks pretty to me . :-) As far as Macs are concerned I have never done more than swipe a mouse across the screen of one in Big Byte but given half a chance I would have a good play on one . And unlike some people here I would be prepared to do a lap around Woolworths naked for one -- as long as the spectators were blindfolded . ;-) :D One day I'll build one with all the trimmings . . . .	Susan B (19)
202353	2003-12-25 07:37:00	> Sure, > Bill Gates stole their mouse Yeah, but it's way improved it... My last encounter with a Mac had a single button mouse. Today's PC mouses can have up to a dozen functions (or more?) available from up to 5 buttons/scroll wheel etc. I couldn't handle not having the right-click function at least	Greg S (201)
202354	2003-12-25 08:25:00	> > If you are after a cheap and no fuss workstation then > Windows wins hands down . Piece together any hardware, > drop in the OS, install that pile of pirated software > that everyone has and you are away for less than > $1000 . Sure it crashes and has as much class and a > group of West Aucklander’s in a Takapuna café but > it’s cheap and it works . > hmmm . . . Your saying that you cant assemble a pc running that wont crash? Perhaps you should leave the pc building to those that can then . As to your other points . In a round about way you say if you want a cost effective powerful machine then go for a windows machine? Sounds good to me bubba . I don't see paying 3 times as much in order to get a slower performing machine as classy,But hey,what would i know . . . After all i would avoid Takapuna cafe society like the plauge .	metla (154)
202355	2003-12-25 08:27:00	> hmmm...Your saying that you cant assemble a pc > running that wont crash? That was meant to say---Your saying that you cant assemble a pc running windows that wont crash?	metla (154)
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