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Thread ID: 129509 2013-02-25 23:37:00 Minimum wage rise - thnak goodness it was ony 25cents Digby (677) PC World Chat
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1330121 2013-02-27 08:04:00 You're forgetting that this isn't about pctek, this is about a fictitious family living on the minimum wage with two kids. That's why comparing your budget to that of somebody living on the minimum wage isn't really a good comparison.

Ah but I know way more real people living on crap money than you do, and your fictitious.....no-one is paying $290 a week for a 3bdrm for instance.
Make it real, not imaginary.

And I would say my budget is more in line than yours.
Minimum wage families generally aren't buying takeaways, aren't going out to zoos and the like. Their take the kids out tends to be parks and the beach.

There's X and his lot. The three of them share a 3bdrm, rent is horrendous, they pay $200 a week each. It's not a mansion, but being Tat Nth, higher than most I guess. They got it because another relative moved out, they would have pretty slim chnaces of getting a rental the real way....

One is retired, one on a sickness benefit and one working.
You want their budget???? They have one vehicle between them, no heating at all in the place, food....well........makes mine look incredible.
There is internet but not sky.
They have no insurance either....

Its all very well saying people should do this and that.....believe me, they have tried to move elsewhere. One working doesn't encourage landlords...and it's a landlords market lately, same as sellers market...
pctek (84)
1330122 2013-02-27 08:24:00 When I was single I owned my own house and had flatmates in to help pay the bills. The money I got from the three flatmates I considered free money and I could spend it on alcohol, dirty girls, travel anything. Never thought twice about until one day I was over at the neighbours drinking piss at one of his famous parties. His sister said to me it was obscene that I had money to waste why she as a solo mum struggled to bring up 3 kids. I told her to get ***** and her brother backed me up.
The problem is the prevoius generation work ethic has gone replaced by a thought that someone should provide for them even they if they keep breeding.
prefect (6291)
1330123 2013-02-27 11:21:00 Ah but I know way more real people living on crap money than you do,

You might want to get down off your high horse before you fall off. I'm also glad you know the circle of friends I keep better than I do. Get bloody real. Some people...

That and if your friends are paying $600 a week for rent in Te Atatu, they're total retards. If they're strapped for cash, it's their own damn fault for being foolish with where they live. Living on the Peninsula is not bright when you have little money.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1330124 2013-02-27 19:26:00 The fact of the matter is, whilst we have over 160,000 unemployed, a McDonalds economy, manufacture nothing that other countries would beat a path to our door to buy regardless of exchange rate, then we are going to continue to have a low wage economy for the general hoi-poloi. High flyers should consider themselves lucky.

Any remote chance of developing high tech. industries on the Swiss model (apart from a very few small innovative excellent firms) went out of the window with Douglas.

The fact of the matter is, we live in a world where socialism rules, that is in both left and right factions.

How we would fare if government rules and red tape allowed us to get on with it, I don't know, but listen to anybody that has to deal with the RMA and it is murder.

We would still have subsidised farming if it wasn't for Douglas. And so on and so on..........
Cicero (40)
1330125 2013-02-27 19:39:00 You're not always wrong, Cic, and you're right again... Spot on, in fact johcar (6283)
1330126 2013-02-27 19:43:00 You might want to get down off your high horse before you fall off.

That and if your friends are paying $600 a week for rent in Te Atatu, they're total retards.

And yours? You make some fantasy budget not even based on real world costs and decide people always can make changes.

They'd love to find a cheaper place. You think that's so easy too?

Think yourself glad you haven't had to find out the hard way that sometimes circumstances dictate what you can and can't do.
pctek (84)
1330127 2013-02-27 20:14:00 Who cares what people earn? What does it matter to you for? As long as their earning money and not receiving benefits who cares. Better to be out working earning minimum wage than sitting on a benefit and get less than the minimum wage. QW. (15883)
1330128 2013-02-27 20:20:00 sometimes circumstances dictate what you can and can't do.

Yes, sometimes they do. Without direct knowledge of the situation being discussed, I don't think I can say whether it's the case here or not.

But, on a general note, some people are far too eager to find an excuse, and will use the "i can't do that" line when what they really mean is "I won't do that", and they're very different beasts.
inphinity (7274)
1330129 2013-02-27 20:28:00 And yours? You make some fantasy budget not even based on real world costs and decide people always can make changes.

They'd love to find a cheaper place. You think that's so easy too?

Think yourself glad you haven't had to find out the hard way that sometimes circumstances dictate what you can and can't do.

Again, I'm glad you know my life better than I do. Or not... Don't be so bloody arrogant! (Or ignorant, I can't make up my mind)

If they wanted to, they'd find a cheaper place. I've been there, I had to. We moved for a saving of $12 a week.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1330130 2013-02-27 20:36:00 With respect, anyone who is on the bones of their arse and struggling making ends meet, does NOT need SkyTV. johcar (6283)
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