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Thread ID: 129509 2013-02-25 23:37:00 Minimum wage rise - thnak goodness it was ony 25cents Digby (677) PC World Chat
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1330101 2013-02-26 22:58:00 Actually son did one too, finally, he's only $80 short a week, but he can fiddle the food bill........
Not bad considering their level of debt is disgusting.

They have no insurance at all on anything.
Do have sky and internet, use landline for GF work, cellphone prepaid for the rest.

He gets um, $22 a hour I think?
GF is about to be fired though.
For 4 years she did 50 hours a week and got $300 in the hand.
Last year she did 40 hours and got $250, so she finally complained to DOL.

Now you tell me about minimum wage, don't know why she didn't complain ages ago. I guess cause it was handy with the kid - work from home doing after hours phones for a certain large contracted to council organisation.


But hey, she can get a real job - about time.....
They pay $320 week rent in Waiuku.
Window fell out a few weeks a go, house is rotten, mould everywhere...


Beats me where you pay $290 in West Auckland for 3 bdrm.
Brother-in-law owns a 3bdrm crap box rental, he charges $380 for that in Glendene.

Friend has a 2 bdrm apartment, no car park, in town, $400, she thought is as high until the neighbour told her, hers went up to $465.
pctek (84)
1330102 2013-02-26 23:09:00 Eh, $470 a week post-tax isn't that hard to live off for a family of four if you budget even half decently... Dunno about this $600 business!


I can live quite well on $600 a week thanks. Don't know where they get off saying that I'm on the poverty line.
QW. (15883)
1330103 2013-02-26 23:34:00 Yes. It's called a race to the bottom.

To be competitive a country tries to avoid supporting citizens considered losers. That's why Europe wants to get rid of Greece, Spain, Italy... America does it by shunting people into gaols, ghettos, trailer parks - perhaps 2x the population of Greece have been gotten rid of that way. China does it by 'managing' the expectations of the rural poor - ie, curtailing freedoms

In NZ, we get rid of the poor by electing a prime minister who smiles a lot. It lets him get away with murder. (fortunately not literally)

Oh well at least we have invented a different way of doing it!
Digby (677)
1330104 2013-02-26 23:35:00 I've sold quite a bit of passionfruit at the gate lately
But are your tomatoes as good as mine?
BBCmicro (15761)
1330105 2013-02-26 23:52:00 Given my background ... don't mind living with family when you are still single, heck I know people who are in their near 40s still at home. Working. The bills are cheaper, it's not that bad about it, they're all accepting. They contribute of course for the utilities and food. I know some people who got jobs in Australia but only rented a single sized room, a bit like a home stay except it is self catering but instead of a family with a child it's just normal people living there so there's isn't the complex rental nature, ie, 2 weeks deposit refundable 2 weeks notice if you wanna leave. A cousin works near Chinatown in a bank so he pretty much just eat out cheaply and cook the occasional snack or noodles at home. Some others I know who are married yeah they live with the husband's family or the wife's including their grown up sibling. Even if you go to some parts of Europe it's quite common even if they are self sufficient. If I had to a separate set of rent to pay, utilities, that's more challenging. And .. if you can live like that ... that's money that can be saved or spent elsewhere than going towards the basic essentials which some people may argue it's duplication but some countries do like their independence living ... I may have read that this shared style of living is increasing in NZ too. Nomad (952)
1330106 2013-02-27 00:14:00 Gross Pay Hour 13.75 Take Home pay weekly 463.25
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Your total comes to: $756.69 a week.
Bit high don't you think???
You're forgetting WFF tax credits



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How about a real world budget:
Monthly:

Sky 47
Sky TV goes, it's not a requirement. You get free-to-air


Mrt 1300
What's MRT? Mortgage? Person X is on minimum wage, they don't own their own home, they rent


Phones (landline, internet + 2 cellphones, one at $40 a month, the other at $30 a month 220
Two cellphones on that much are a luxury. $19 plans per-month, each, IF they even have Cellphones. That or they get the $10 txt pack to communicate with each other during the day. Cellphone calls are a luxury they can't afford


Ami House and contents 117
*Just* contents insurance, no need for house insurance if you're renting


Website 8
Ads 80
Ads / Website are a no-go if you're on minimum wage, not relevent.


Rates 118
Rates are usually included in rent are they not?



$38000 is what Webdrive started me on.
Factor in the WFF tax credits etc and you'll be better off, in my example they have two kids.

Point is, it's doable. All this BS you hear about it not, purely the fault of the victims.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1330107 2013-02-27 00:20:00 BTW - WFF tax credits for a single income, 40 hour minimum wage family with 2 kids: $209
I've also just found out they may be able to receive an accommodation supplement of $120 a week too, on top of that?! Bloody hell our Govt loves to give the handouts... yet people still ***** for more!?!
Chilling_Silence (9)
1330108 2013-02-27 00:20:00 Having seen cramped living overseas, it's quite a luxury to have both weekend days free and most evenings and all the real estate space in and front/rear yards, BBQ and what have you. To me toys or what have you are just tools, I make a call or get an email, use the map. So my toys have been really just travelling to NZ or overseas and staying with people I know or juts live in guesthouses rather than the hotel - dine, cruise and shop which the marketers tries to promote. Heck my cellphone still is a 3" and a CRT TV. My PC is 4+ yr old the laptop probably 6. Seeing students living in halls of residences, the most creative lot in terms of space managing are those from overseas. PC? Nah it's the laptop that doubles as the TV, and stereo. If they had to get a TV in the past anyway I seen they get one of those 15" CRT with the builtin VHS recorder and get a group of friends over. Those gamers did have PC in a small room and just made do. The room was length wise less than 2 beds and the width of 2.5 single beds.

Visited a friend overseas, got job, no TV, have laptop and the aircon which comes standard there, a coffee table no dining table, no sofa, she has one of those cushion seat which you basically sit on the floor which comes with a cushion arm rest and back rest. When they come here the NZ subdivided town houses in the suburbs are pretty sweet ...
Nomad (952)
1330109 2013-02-27 01:10:00 Was just browsing around ... and thought if I were living by myself here or abroad, well abroad small units are the norm :D
Over here in Welly, it would be $120/week for a shared situation + $50 food + $15 utilities. Own unit is a bit more I think, $230/week for a 1 bedroom unit, +50 food + maybe 30 for utilities. Which is probably what I do if I were to go out ... Use my old laptop than PC, no TV, no stereo, no BBQ, could probably skip the contents insurance. Cellphone I use less than $5 for the month, get some Skype credit, internet might be $10 a week and use less? After some time get a dining table from The Warehouse or on TM at the start just eat off my desk table.
Nomad (952)
1330110 2013-02-27 02:16:00 Heh I live in a 5 bedroom house and we don't bother with a dining table.
We would never use it.
DeSade (984)
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