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Thread ID: 129507	2013-02-25 22:21:00	Don't very often say this, but stupid cyclist.	Trev (427)	PC World Chat

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1329991	2013-03-03 06:00:00	Got to start some where, start with the arrogant cyclists they dont pay any road tax. Sorry prefect - that a silly argument. Why would cyclists paying road tax make any difference to their behaviour? It doesn't seem to make motorists better drivers. ;) I don't beleive there is anywhere in the world where cyclists have to be registered. They tried somewhere in the US, but gave it away after realising the cost of administering the scheme far outweighed the fees being charged, and it didn't have any appreciable impact on the road behaviour of anyone, motorist or cyclist. Besides, any cyclist who owns a motor vehicle *does* pay road tax - and when riding their bike is not damaging the road (which is what road tax covers in part)...	johcar (6283)
1329992	2013-03-03 06:12:00	Maybe number plates on bikes like they had in Singapore. Then we could dob the cyclists in on car cam footage. Something has to be done about their red light running. Having registration and licences for bikes would completely kill the point of them being really easy and cheap means of transportation.	jonovw (16835)
1329993	2013-03-03 06:34:00	I thought Aucklands roads were paid for by Auckland Transport and as such ratepayers. Can anyone confirm this?	Barnabas (4562)
1329994	2013-03-03 06:38:00	Got to start some where, start with the arrogant cyclists they dont pay any road tax. I would say that the majority of cyclists pay road tax when they fill there cars up with petrol. :)	Trev (427)
1329995	2013-03-03 19:49:00	I would say that the majority of cyclists pay road tax when they fill there cars up with petrol. :) Yes but they don't pay road tax when the ride their bikes like motorist do when they drive their cars. Saw a great example this morning of a dummy cyclist . He was behind me and the traffic light went red. He pulled out, went to the rite hand side of the road, kept riding and avoided the traffic coming out of the side road and then pulled back to the left and kept on going as if he had done wrong..	paulw (1826)
1329996	2013-03-03 20:10:00	Yes but they don't pay road tax when the ride their bikes like motorist do when they drive their cars. Saw a great example this morning of a dummy cyclist . He was behind me and the traffic light went red. He pulled out, went to the rite hand side of the road, kept riding and avoided the traffic coming out of the side road and then pulled back to the left and kept on going as if he had done wrong.. I ask again, what difference would it have made if the cyclist had paid additional road tax (additional, that is, to the road tax he is probably paying for his car sitting at home in the garage, unused) for his bike in this instance? I suspect absolutely none at all - just like if a motorist had pulled a similar stunt. Even if you see a motorist doing something stupid and report it to the Police, the most the motorist is likely to get is a generic letter from the Police saying "Drive more carefully, you are now on file". Behaviour on the road isn't determined by tax - it's determined by common sense and morality/empathy for fellow road users. Both of which, like the rain, seem to be in short supply...	johcar (6283)
1329997	2013-03-03 22:54:00	Well if they paid road tax then they would have a rego plate to take a foto of and sent it to the cops..	paulw (1826)
1329998	2013-03-03 23:12:00	Well if they paid road tax then they would have a rego plate to take a foto of and sent it to the cops.. And if you do this with an offending car *now*, do the Police actually do anything apart from sending a letter to the last known address of the registered vehicle? And does this improve the on-road behaviour the driver of said vehicle? I think you'll find the answer to both of those questions is a resounding "No". (Ignoring the fact that if you're driving, you can't legally manually operate a camera anyway) So you're no worse off now than if you registered cyclists (which is a dumb idea for a number of reasons, as mentioned in various posts above).	johcar (6283)
1329999	2013-03-04 06:23:00	And if you do this with an offending car *now*, do the Police actually do anything apart from sending a letter to the last known address of the registered vehicle? And does this improve the on-road behaviour the driver of said vehicle? I think you'll find the answer to both of those questions is a resounding "No". (Ignoring the fact that if you're driving, you can't legally manually operate a camera anyway) So you're no worse off now than if you registered cyclists (which is a dumb idea for a number of reasons, as mentioned in various posts above). Why a dumb idea?? The Gov needs all the revenue it can get it's hands on. Here is a good revenue stream. May take some of the heat of the long suffering motorist..	paulw (1826)
1330000	2013-03-04 06:33:00	I ask again, what difference would it have made if the cyclist had paid additional road tax (additional, that is, to the road tax he is probably paying for his car sitting at home in the garage, unused) for his bike in this instance? I suspect absolutely none at all - just like if a motorist had pulled a similar stunt. Even if you see a motorist doing something stupid and report it to the Police, the most the motorist is likely to get is a generic letter from the Police saying "Drive more carefully, you are now on file". Behaviour on the road isn't determined by tax - it's determined by common sense and morality/empathy for fellow road users. Both of which, like the rain, seem to be in short supply...so by your theory, if I have two cars and can only drive one at a time. I should then only pay one registration between the two. Motorbikes cause less damage to the road then cars,but my rego is almost double that of a car. Your theory is flawed By the way, I do think cycle registration is a dumb idea.	plod (107)
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