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Thread ID: 135021 2013-09-14 12:56:00 Please recommend me a laptop Chikara (5139) Press F1
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1353559 2013-09-17 15:08:00 Then how about this HP one (www.pcworld.co.nz) reviewed by our very own fine PCWorld.

Thanks, I did check out that link, must admit I've never really been a HP fan and although it seems grunty enough, some of the features and the comments in the article about build quality put me off a little bit...
Chikara (5139)
1353560 2013-09-18 15:42:00 Am I also right in thinking, all new machines come only with Win 8? Not Win 7 any more? Chikara (5139)
1353561 2013-09-18 20:07:00 Am I also right in thinking, all new machines come only with Win 8? Not Win 7 any more?Nope This page (www.ascent.co.nz) from Ascent features several Win7 machines. Greg (193)
1353562 2013-09-19 00:00:00 Am I also right in thinking, all new machines come only with Win 8? Not Win 7 any more?

Depends on the manufacturer. Some have dropped windows 7, others haven't.
icow (15313)
1353563 2013-09-19 13:13:00 Right, so it's per manufacturer. Can anyone really give me a compelling reason why Win 8 is better than Win 7?
I tried the Win 8 RC version when it was available, couldn't stand it. The navigation wasn't intuitive at all. I know they have worked hard to improve it since then though. My desktop is Win 7 and I'm perfectly happy with it, but it seems most manufacturers offer only Win 8.
Chikara (5139)
1353564 2013-09-19 22:11:00 No compelling reasons no, but I can say once you get used to it the annoyance eventually goes away and there are a lot of nice little tweaks under the hood.
I initially was quite anti, now I've come to quite like it. But if you have no need or interest in the new style apps then it offers nothing that 7 can't already do.

I would not have a problem with going back to 7 after using 8 for a few months but I don't feel the need to either. Windows 8.1 is due out next month and has a few usabilty tweaks that should reduce the hate a little. Really if you don't like "metro" you can just use it as a big start menu and use all the desktop versions of apps which really removes most of the differences other than the cosmetic one.
dugimodo (138)
1353565 2013-09-20 01:16:00 Am I also right in thinking, all new machines come only with Win 8? Not Win 7 any more?

Plenty of Laptops sold with Win7: HP, Toshiba etc . Usually Pro class laptops, not the cheapo home laptops sold at 'toaster shops'
You get a Win8 license , but its downgraded to a Win7 install. Sometimes you get recovery CD's for both Win7 & Win8 so you can change to Win8 later (wipe & re-image)

HP's are good, if you get the Pro/business class laptops. The cheap HP's are just that, cheap (as per cheapies from other brands)

I dont like Win8 either (yuk, split personality OS with a phones GUI), choose what you will be happiest with. :-)
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