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| Thread ID: 129509 | 2013-02-25 23:37:00 | Minimum wage rise - thnak goodness it was ony 25cents | Digby (677) | PC World Chat |
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| 1330181 | 2013-02-28 22:16:00 | [QUOTE=Digby;1148669 How are our exporters supposed to export to Asia and Latin America where their min wages are all under $5.00.[/QUOTE] Perhaps by being value added, hi-tech and/or niche market oriented, and by not trying to compete in labour-intensive fields. One reason why those minimum wages are so low could be because there is a gross labour surplus. It could also be that there are free medical and welfare services (that we have to pay for here) that make the cost of living look artificially low. The UK is one example. You'd probably need to do a comprehensive costs of living (or costs of existing in some countries, i.e North Korea) breakdown before you could legitimately compare the NZ minimum wage. It is the unquoted data that tells the real story with those in other countries. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1330182 | 2013-02-28 22:23:00 | When I first graduated in business I was maybe a bit of a balance-right side ... I think it's reality that after retraining some just don't get the fruits. Some have gotten PR in NZ after studying here, worked as a kitchen hand, then back overseas. Some worked in call centre and pretty much stayed in that line of work or moved into processing or became a trainer. One of them got a family now and have accepted it. One got half a PhD, now just worked for a international school in teaching for maybe 38k prob now for 10yrs. There's ways to boost the money - they take in one or two boarders...Live in a large household. Live a simple life. Very little outings. Not necessarily a ghetto feeling. Have you decided? Left or right. I tend to agree with the hypothesis: Rule 1: Life is not fair — get used to it! Rule 2: The world won’t care about your self-esteem. The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself. Rule 3: You will NOT make $60,000 a year right out of high school. You won’t be a vice-president with a car phone until you earn both. Rule 4: If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss. Rule 5: Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your Grandparents had a different word for burger flipping — they called it opportunity. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1330183 | 2013-02-28 22:35:00 | I'm not left and I'm not right... I'm a effin human-being with my own thoughts and opinions! | lordnoddy (3645) | ||
| 1330184 | 2013-02-28 23:14:00 | ^^ Cicero to president! :) | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1330185 | 2013-03-01 04:13:00 | My family survived on a student wage as my father went back and re-trained... My father, mother, 5 sibblings (plus me), as well as looking after a woman going through a mental breakdown, all under one roof, on a student allowance. We lived for 3 years like that, with no income additional Anybody who tells me $18 an hour isn't enough is either talking out their ass, or not living on the bare minimum. If you're earning more than the minimum wage, and your income is important to you, then that's why (Like me) you would get insurance. I think in todays terms it work out we lived off the equivalent of around $16 an hour for a family of 8 plus an extra... No income from the "extra" either, no benefits, no nothing... Just a family friends in a midlife crisis having a mental breakdown and we helped her out and put her up in a room while she was incapable of taking care of herself. Best part about it all: We never felt poor! Why? Because I was 12 and worked through a budget with my parents. It was a very tight budget, we didn't get luxuries like Sky TV, no alcohol (For them, I was 12 and didn't really like it back then), no smokes, no ice cream or dessert, no snacks like packets of chips, and we were lucky to get hot chips and a 60c donut once a month for dinner. We survived of the most basic of basic meals (Mince, mashed potato and a few veggies) but we still felt like we had everything we could need. No the "living wage" is an absolute joke if you ask me. Sure you can't live in a flash townhouse and probably have to move somewhere where rent is cheaper (As we did), but that's OK, the "minimum" is not supposed to be "luxury" and I think that's where a lot of people are completely ignorant about it. I've been there, it's not that bad, and if you're determined then it's not a permanent thing. Same for my wife and I, newly married, I was trying to make self-employment happen (It didn't work). I earned $10K in the first year we were married. She was a full-time student working, making $260 a week post-taxes (Couldn't get the student allowance, both our parents made just over the limit). We survived on that, relatively comfortably I might add. We weren't saving more than a few bucks a week, we rarely went out, but we survived. You just have to be smart.this is the post I was referring too chill, if you can make sense of it. |
plod (107) | ||
| 1330186 | 2013-03-01 05:23:00 | ^^ Cicero to president! :) FYI Cicero IS president!!! |
Gobe1 (6290) | ||
| 1330187 | 2013-03-01 05:47:00 | this is the post I was referring too chill, if you can make sense of it. I can make sense of it, a family with little money, helped someone else and cut out the luxuries whilst the Dad retrained. Still quite common in rural towns in the South Island but you dont know about it because they dont whine to the media some other **** owes them a living. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1330188 | 2013-03-01 06:15:00 | FYI Cicero IS president!!! Whatever it is you and CS want, just say the word, council house with 4 bedrooms, you just have to ask. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1330189 | 2013-03-01 09:06:00 | this is the post I was referring too chill, if you can make sense of it. Honestly mate, I'm completely lost here.... |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
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